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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I see a lot of people thinking that fighting is a good thing.

    What does it solve?
    From my experience, a physical fight can lead to accelerated conflict resolution if both parties willingly engage in the fight and the fight is not allowed to get out of control where serious harm is inflicted.

    Not fighting can lead to a drawn out conflict that never fully ceases and develops into a feud.

    The key to the whole thing is that both parties engage willingly in the fight, and neither seeks to do any serious damage.

    Think of it like a "gentlemanly" duel, not a fight.

    It also teaches that controlled aggression is better than uncontrolled aggression. In other words: fighting with rules > fighting with no rules.

    To win in a controlled fight, you must be capable of some degree of discipline. If I am fighting someone, anger is my worst enemy.

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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    They were fighting, in a cage, and a grappling takedown was clearly tolerated. "Ref" didn't break the clinch until the one student mounted the other and started punching him in the face.

    I didn't see anything too wrong with it, but they're clearly not following the Marquis' rules.



    ahh i missed the take down part.
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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Violence maintains civility? I don't buy that. I can see that a pressure release can be effective for releasing built up frustrations. I don't think violence is the best way to to release tensions. Many people frustrate me. I don't think bloodying their teeth will remedy that situation. I can release my frustrations without hurting another person.



    Ever see a hockey game? fights keep the cheap shots in check.


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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    From my experience, a physical fight can lead to accelerated conflict resolution if both parties willingly engage in the fight and the fight is not allowed to get out of control where serious harm is inflicted.

    Not fighting can lead to a drawn out conflict that never fully ceases and develops into a feud.

    The key to the whole thing is that both parties engage willingly in the fight, and neither seeks to do any serious damage.

    Think of it like a "gentlemanly" duel, not a fight.

    It also teaches that controlled aggression is better than uncontrolled aggression. In other words: fighting with rules > fighting with no rules.

    To win in a controlled fight, you must be capable of some degree of discipline. If I am fighting someone, anger is my worst enemy.
    I get what you are saying. I can tolerate this to a degree. I wouldn't propose that the govt. have you removed from your home because your father allowed your brother and you to box, as safely as boxing can be.

    Would your father have done the same thing if you and your brother were girls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I see a lot of people thinking that fighting is a good thing.

    What does it solve?
    12 o’clock, biach, the mat will be expecting your face as I wipe your blood and teeth off my worn out glove.

    Try not to cry until your with your mommy in the hospital.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Violence maintains civility? I don't buy that. I can see that a pressure release can be effective for releasing built up frustrations. I don't think violence is the best way to to release tensions. Many people frustrate me. I don't think bloodying their teeth will remedy that situation. I can release my frustrations without hurting another person.
    I can't.

    You're dead!
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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Ever see a hockey game? fights keep the cheap shots in check.


    and I refer you to Kenny Rogers for the rest of this life lesson.

    YouTube - Coward of the County - Kenny Rogers
    Yes, I've been to hockey games. Fights keep the fans in the arena. Refs could keep the cheap shots in check. See Olympic hockey or junior hockey .

    I'm no coward. I've been in fights. It never solved anything. But I do like the saying "Run, run away, live to run another day."
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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    From my experience, a physical fight can lead to accelerated conflict resolution if both parties willingly engage in the fight and the fight is not allowed to get out of control where serious harm is inflicted.

    Not fighting can lead to a drawn out conflict that never fully ceases and develops into a feud.

    The key to the whole thing is that both parties engage willingly in the fight, and neither seeks to do any serious damage.

    Think of it like a "gentlemanly" duel, not a fight.

    It also teaches that controlled aggression is better than uncontrolled aggression. In other words: fighting with rules > fighting with no rules.

    To win in a controlled fight, you must be capable of some degree of discipline. If I am fighting someone, anger is my worst enemy.
    I think this would be the best option, I hated in school that I couldn't beat the **** out of some of the pompous major douches.

    That peer conflict resolution stuff doesn't work.
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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    12 o’clock, biach, the mat will be expecting your face as I wipe your blood and teeth off my worn out glove.

    Try not to cry until your with your mommy in the hospital.
    I'm so sorry. Here's my lunch money.
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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I didn't say that violence maintains civility. I believe I said that acknowledging and accommodating the urge to violence makes it easier to maintain civility when violence is undesirable.

    Historically, the cultures with the most refined manners were those in which violence was most common-- and we can observe, even within our own lifetimes, that as the frequency of and tolerance for violence has decreased the standards for proper public conduct and decorum have likewise decreased.
    Victorian society and Budo come to mind.

    Hmm, perhaps social graces is a stand-alone reason to support private gun ownership?

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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I get what you are saying. I can tolerate this to a degree. I wouldn't propose that the govt. have you removed from your home because your father allowed your brother and you to box, as safely as boxing can be.

    Would your father have done the same thing if you and your brother were girls?
    He taught my sister how to box, so I'd say it would have been likely.

    One of our family friends is a professional female boxer.

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