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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

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    One of those hits a kid in the head and he will be riding the short bus from there on out.

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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I'm not talking about justice. Why do you keep thinking that I am talking about justice, when I have made it clear repeatedly that I am not? There is a legal system for doling out justice, and I whole-heartedly approve of it. This isn't about justice, or damages, or reparations. It's about settling minor grievances and venting frustration.


    A fight like that doesn't solve anything except for feeling like you want to hit something. That's all I'm looking for it to accomplish.
    If a grievance is minor, by definition, it isn't worth fighting over.

    I think most fights are because someone feels slighted, wronged, or outright disrespected. For them, it is about their own personal justice. People who vent frustration by committing violence against another are learning a bad way to deal with said frustration. What happens when they transfer that to someone that isn't a "fair" fight, like their kids, pets, or spouses?

    It's one thing for brothers or friends to box, but I don't see that as the normal situation for fighting.
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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    I think Korimyr's basic point that if people knew being a jagoff in public was likely and acceptable to result in them getting a beatdown, that we'd have a lot less jagoffs. Conversely that because we have no real fear of consequences from being a jagoff to strangers, we see it far more often today. In our culture I can be a complete and utter butthole and unless I inititate a physical confrontation, the other guy can't do anything other than walk away.

    Would an increased social tolerance for casual violence be abused by some individuals who just want to feel like "big shots"? Sure. It was in the past and it certainly would be again. But is dealing with those few outliers worse or better that what we have today? Its an interesting question. It could be argued that having to deal with a few bullies who abuse tolerance for violence is better than the widespread lack of civility we experience today. The reverse could be argued as well, so like I said, its an interesting question.

    As to duels, I'm a libertarian. If two consenting adults want to risk their lives or well being in fair contest, I say let 'em. We're free to make our own decisions, even bad ones.
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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Blown out of proportion I expect. When I was in jrHigh thirty years ago, the gym coaches used to do this when they caught two guys posturing for a fight: throw them in the equipment cage and make them fight it out, stopping it when someone had enough. Nobody ever got hurt very much.

    Different times, I know...but it usually ended there back when I was a kid, instead of resulting in someone shot or stabbed like it so often does now.
    That is insane

    You should never try to teach kids to fight it out. How about talking it out? My goodness this makes me so sad

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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Saw the video. Kids were wearing headgear and gloves, the floor was padded, and they had responsible adult supervision-- including breaking clinches and preventing groundfighting. As far as I am concerned, the only thing the school did wrong was failing to secure parental permission for the bouts. That, and it probably would have been better to use an open space instead of a cage.

    This is still a damn sight better for the students than having them expelled and arrested.

    Still, it makes me wonder what the principal was thinking in the current legal and cultural climate.
    I hope the parents sue the living hell outta this school and win

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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    How in the heck can some of you condone kids beating the crap outta each other? What next: fight clubs in high school where you go and cheer your kids on as they beat each other to death via fightclub style?

    Also I thought they took bullying in school much more serious these days and are trying to wipe out bullying? If you think tossing two kids in a cage is gonna help aid getting rid of bullying in schools? You are wrong.

    What happens when one of these kids get hit too hard and end up Dead? Are all of you gonna be cheering this on? Do you all know what boxing can do to your brain? I guess some of you do not give a crap if your kids get brain damage?
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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    That is insane

    You should never try to teach kids to fight it out. How about talking it out? My goodness this makes me so sad
    I know this might be an alien idea, but fighting in a controlled setting like this is actually a really good way for young men to work out there problems with each other.

    I suggest watching Alexander the Great film, specifically the part where young men are fighting to learn how to become good warriors. Basically the young boys create a bond with each other that last throughout there lifetimes. One of my best friends from highschool who I still talk to on a daily basis is a guy who I got into a very large fight with in gym class.

    I fear this kind of male bonding(I mean this as hetereosexually as possible) is what is missing from children nowadays. It is an easy way to come to terms with each other, something not really explainable in words.
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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    I firmly believe one of the biggest problems with people today is that they never have taken a punch in the face.
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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    .... But I do like the saying "Run, run away, live to run another day."
    That probably works for you since you can outrun your wife. Sucks to be her though.

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    Re: US high school 'held cage fights'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I firmly believe one of the biggest problems with people today is that they never have taken a punch in the face.
    That's funny right there.
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