I think most fights are because someone feels slighted, wronged, or outright disrespected. For them, it is about their own personal justice. People who vent frustration by committing violence against another are learning a bad way to deal with said frustration. What happens when they transfer that to someone that isn't a "fair" fight, like their kids, pets, or spouses?
It's one thing for brothers or friends to box, but I don't see that as the normal situation for fighting.
Originally Posted by Jerry
I think Korimyr's basic point that if people knew being a jagoff in public was likely and acceptable to result in them getting a beatdown, that we'd have a lot less jagoffs. Conversely that because we have no real fear of consequences from being a jagoff to strangers, we see it far more often today. In our culture I can be a complete and utter butthole and unless I inititate a physical confrontation, the other guy can't do anything other than walk away.
Would an increased social tolerance for casual violence be abused by some individuals who just want to feel like "big shots"? Sure. It was in the past and it certainly would be again. But is dealing with those few outliers worse or better that what we have today? Its an interesting question. It could be argued that having to deal with a few bullies who abuse tolerance for violence is better than the widespread lack of civility we experience today. The reverse could be argued as well, so like I said, its an interesting question.
As to duels, I'm a libertarian. If two consenting adults want to risk their lives or well being in fair contest, I say let 'em. We're free to make our own decisions, even bad ones.
Slipping into madness is good for the sake of comparison - Unknown.
How in the heck can some of you condone kids beating the crap outta each other? What next: fight clubs in high school where you go and cheer your kids on as they beat each other to death via fightclub style?
Also I thought they took bullying in school much more serious these days and are trying to wipe out bullying? If you think tossing two kids in a cage is gonna help aid getting rid of bullying in schools? You are wrong.
What happens when one of these kids get hit too hard and end up Dead? Are all of you gonna be cheering this on? Do you all know what boxing can do to your brain? I guess some of you do not give a crap if your kids get brain damage?
Last edited by Kali; 03-23-09 at 12:22 AM.
I suggest watching Alexander the Great film, specifically the part where young men are fighting to learn how to become good warriors. Basically the young boys create a bond with each other that last throughout there lifetimes. One of my best friends from highschool who I still talk to on a daily basis is a guy who I got into a very large fight with in gym class.
I fear this kind of male bonding(I mean this as hetereosexually as possible) is what is missing from children nowadays. It is an easy way to come to terms with each other, something not really explainable in words.
The purpose of morality is to teach you, not to suffer and die, but to enjoy yourself and live. ~ Ayn Rand
A politician divides mankind into two classes: tools and enemies.~ Nietzsche
I firmly believe one of the biggest problems with people today is that they never have taken a punch in the face.
Matthew 10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.