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A.I.G. executives face scorn, even at their homes

TheNextEra said:
Again, whatever the government passes, does not mean that these idiots have the right to threaten families,
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Right!

TheNextEra said:
nor is it the governments fault that these idiots are doing it.
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Wrong!


When you=govt drop a rat=aig into an anaconda pen=angry masses whose fault is it the rat gets eaten?
 
jallman said:
Really? Cuz I seem to remember Clinton being in there for 8 of those years and I'm pretty sure he was a democrat. :confused:
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Right, so you don't hold the republican congress responsible during 6 of those eight years? Naturally.

Besides, he was moderate to conservative, economically speaking, and he was pretty much republican in trade policy.
 
akyron said:
Wrong!


When you=govt drop a rat=aig into an anaconda pen=angry masses whose fault is it the rat gets eaten?
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Again, it is not the government's fault that these people are getting threatened.

If you are blaming the government for bailing out these companies, fine, but that is where the blame ends. The government is not at fault for idiots threatening people's lives, it is the fault of the people doing the threatening.

It would be like me blaming the government for me robbing a bank because the economy is bad. Sorry that doesn't fly.
 
TheNextEra said:
Again, it is not the government's fault that these people are getting threatened.
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This is blind obtuseness.


If you are blaming the government for bailing out these companies, fine, but that is where the blame ends. The government is not at fault for idiots threatening people's lives, it is the fault of the people doing the threatening.
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Dodd on behalf of Obama's admin wrote in protection of these bonuses then riled up the public against them.


They share some of the blame.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Dodd on behalf of Obama's admin wrote in protection of these bonuses then riled up the public against them.


They share some of the blame.
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No, they don't share the blame for idiots threatening people's lives.

Sorry, but that is called personal responsibility. These people weren't FORCED to go out and threaten people's lives were they?
 
TheNextEra said:
No, they don't share the blame for idiots threatening people's lives.
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Blaming The One will not be tolerated. Got it. :roll:



Sorry, but that is called personal responsibility. These people weren't FORCED to go out and threaten people's lives were they?
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No they weren't and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. However, incitement of idiots is a cause for culpability. Sorry you don't see lying to incite a crowd as anything worthy of blame.
 
TheNextEra said:
No, they don't share the blame for idiots threatening people's lives.

Sorry, but that is called personal responsibility. These people weren't FORCED to go out and threaten people's lives were they?
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No, but they were incited. Anyone who has the first clue about social interaction on a large scale understands that laws against inciting violence are there for a reason.

You do understand social interaction and the role of government in it, don't you?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Blaming The One will not be tolerated. Got it. :roll:
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Yeah Obama made these people threaten others lives right? Gimme a break.

The fact you blame Obama for people threatening others is laughable. I've criticized Obama for many things, but this isn't one of them as he isn't at fault for others being stupid and going out threatening people's lives.


Reverend_Hellh0und said:
No they weren't and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. However, incitement of idiots is a cause for culpability. Sorry you don't see lying to incite a crowd as anything worthy of blame.
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There was no incitement. If you think differently try and charge this administration with the crime of incitement and let me know how it goes ok?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
No they weren't and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. However, incitement of idiots is a cause for culpability. Sorry you don't see lying to incite a crowd as anything worthy of blame.
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Whether he believes it or even understands the concept is irrelevant. Laws are written to address exactly what we've been discussing in this thread.
 
jallman said:
No, but they were incited. Anyone who has the first clue about social interaction on a large scale understands that laws against inciting violence are there for a reason.

You do understand social interaction and the role of government in it, don't you?
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Well as I told Rev, go out and charge Obama and the administration with incitement and find out how that goes. Until then, sorry it wasn't incitement, it was idiots being stupid and threatening people's lives.
 
jallman said:
Whether he believes it or even understands the concept is irrelevant. Laws are written to address exactly what we've been discussing in this thread.
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Well then charge the administration with the crime of incitement and see how that goes. LOL put up or shut up.
 
TheNextEra said:
Yeah Obama made these people threaten others lives right? Gimme a break.
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Did I say that? FAIL

The fact you blame Obama for people threatening others is laughable. I've criticized Obama for many things, but this isn't one of them as he isn't at fault for others being stupid and going out threatening people's lives.
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strawman...... FAIL!



There was no incitement. If you think differently try and charge this administration with the crime of incitement and let me know how it goes ok?
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Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule FAIL
 
TheNextEra said:
Well as I told Rev, go out and charge Obama and the administration with incitement and find out how that goes. Until then, sorry it wasn't incitement, it was idiots being stupid and threatening people's lives.
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If I were a prosecutor and if that would assist you in getting over your obtuse denial of fact, then I would be happy to oblige. In the meantime, I will just have to be content to laugh at how delusional you are.
 
TheNextEra said:
Well then charge the administration with the crime of incitement and see how that goes. LOL put up or shut up.
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Once again when beat intellectually, TNE resorts to this sort of extremist logic and other nonsense. :lol:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Once again when beat intellectually, TNE resorts to this sort of extremist logic and other nonsense. :lol:
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And it is. It's just nonsense deflection of the fact that inciting violence, especially through deceit, IS a crime. He won't acknowledge that and instead resorts to obtuse requests for things that he knows cannot be done, obtuse construction of straw men which he hops on and dickrides around the thread in a show worthy of a homo rodeo, and totally fallacious claims about the other side's arguments.

It's like arguing with Truth Detector on a bad day.
 
TheNextEra said:
You claim that the administration incited these people. FAIL
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So if I tell you that there is a fire, and you pull the fire alarm and you get arrested when there is no fire. there is no fault of my own for lying to you?


Either put up or shut up. Charge him or just admit you hate Obama so much you will just make **** up.
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Are you losing composure here? Please stick to the topic and leave the emotional nonsense to yourself. Thanks!
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
So if I tell you that there is a fire, and you pull the fire alarm and you get arrested when there is no fire. there is no fault of my own for lying to you?


Are you losing composure here? Please stick to the topic and leave the emotional nonsense to yourself. Thanks!
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I'll take that as your concession that you cannot prove your claim. Thank you.

The fact remains that Obama incited nobody. The Obama haters lies cannot change that fact.
 
jallman said:
And it is. It's just nonsense deflection of the fact that inciting violence, especially through deceit, IS a crime. He won't acknowledge that and instead resorts to obtuse requests for things that he knows cannot be done, obtuse construction of straw men which he hops on and dickrides around the thread in a show worthy of a homo rodeo, and totally fallacious claims about the other side's arguments.

It's like arguing with Truth Detector on a bad day.
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Again, the only thing you prove is just that you are an Obama hater that lies.

No crime of incitement was committed by Obama, but nice try on the lies.

But hey, maybe if you repeat the lie enough, you'll believe it. Until then I'll stick to reality unlike you Obama Haters.
 
TheNextEra said:
I'll take that as your concession that you cannot prove your claim. Thank you.
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in what lunatic fringe world would you see me asking you to answer an example as a "concession"? :lamo FAIL

The fact remains that Obama incited nobody. The Obama haters lies cannot change that fact.
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You keep saying so, yet we keep demonstrating how hopelessly wrong you are.
 
TheNextEra said:
Again, the only thing you prove is just that you are an Obama hater that lies.

No crime of incitement was committed by Obama, but nice try on the lies.

But hey, maybe if you repeat the lie enough, you'll believe it. Until then I'll stick to reality unlike you Obama Haters.
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You might have a point if I had said Obama did this. However, I didn't so saddle that straw man up and dickride it around the thread again till your rectum falls out.
 
jallman said:
You might have a point if I had said Obama did this. However, I didn't so saddle that straw man up and dickride it around the thread again till your rectum falls out.
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at the hear4 of the issue i think it was populist outrage over the bonuses that caused Liddy to ask for the bonuses back.
 
I have a question for zimmer. Do you believe it is not morally right, based on your OP, for people to picket an abortion doctor at his or her own home?
 
winston53660 said:
at the hear4 of the issue i think it was populist outrage over the bonuses that caused Liddy to ask for the bonuses back.
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That and the fact that Dodd and Frank let it look like AIG just did this with no direction from the Congress. Did you see Frank whipping up a mob over the issue and the not even veiled threat that he would leak names to the public and Liddy better hand them over?

It was incitement to deflect from the piss poor oversight of how the bailout money was to be used.
 
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