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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    You think that just because I dislike hyperpartisan parrots like Zimmer and yourself that I have "selected outrage" towards the right?
    You can't even be honest with your constant abuse, and tiresome use of the term "hyper-partisan." It is with equal absurdity that you selectively target the "right" on this forum as the ONLY ones who act "hyper-partisan".

    Let's face it, your efforts can only be described as the typical and desperate emotional baiting and trolling so common on this forum usually coming from people who cannot support their partisan, or "non-partisan" (I have to laugh at this notion), views with coherent arguments and facts and feign selective ignorance to the REALITY that one can debate politics and not have a "partisan" view. It takes an equal level of willful denial or ignorance to suggest that the Conservatives on the forum are MORE "hyper-partisan" than the Liberals, Leftists and Communist who infest the place with their rabid anti-Bush hate America first BS.


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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You can't even be honest with your constant abuse, and tiresome use of the term "hyper-partisan." It is with equal absurdity that you selectively target the "right" on this forum as the ONLY ones who act "hyper-partisan".
    Hardly. Your counterpart on the left would be PeteEU.

    Let's face it, your efforts can only be described as the typical and desperate emotional baiting and trolling so common on this forum usually coming from people who cannot support their partisan, or "non-partisan" (I have to laugh at this notion), views with coherent arguments and facts and feign selective ignorance to the REALITY that one can debate politics and not have a "partisan" view.
    You can have a partisan view. The problem arrives when you take it a step further, entrenching yourself so far into your beliefs that you become a parrot for the party. Through confirmation bias, you simply digest what you want and spew out talking points. It's quite entertaining, but quite annoying.

    It takes an equal level of willful denial or ignorance to suggest that the Conservatives on the forum are MORE "hyper-partisan" than the Liberals, Leftists and Communist who infest the place with their rabid anti-Bush hate America first BS.

    I'd say you guys are equal. I'm just glad you are small enough in number that you have not destroyed the fun factor of these forums.
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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Maybe his is just persuing all possible means to find agreement before he declares war. So he can say "I tried everthing".

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Gault View Post
    Maybe his is just persuing all possible means to find agreement before he declares war. So he can say "I tried everthing".
    So you are John Gault... We finally meet.
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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Gault View Post
    Maybe his is just persuing all possible means to find agreement before he declares war. So he can say "I tried everthing".
    Obama will never declare war on anyone in my opinion. Obama is more inclined to give into demands of despots and thugs before he uses any force and his party and constituents are the anti-war for any reason crowd.

    I believe that his goal is to dismantle the military as much as possible like many of our allies have in order to pay for their social welfare programs and in our case, the monstrous deficit this congress and President have gotten us into.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Obama will never declare war on anyone in my opinion. Obama is more inclined to give into demands of despots and thugs before he uses any force and his party and constituents are the anti-war for any reason crowd.

    I believe that his goal is to dismantle the military as much as possible like many of our allies have in order to pay for their social welfare programs and in our case, the monstrous deficit this congress and President have gotten us into.
    We will see. Lucky for us, he is president so we don't really have to guess wether or not he will. Then again, we could guess, this is politics right?

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Gault View Post
    We will see. Lucky for us, he is president so we don't really have to guess wether or not he will. Then again, we could guess, this is politics right?
    Very true, and he has already shown a propensity for going back on issues and promises he has made or stated.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    A simple google search on the history of Iran is all that is required Dave. Are you too lazy to do your own research?

    It is trite and farcical to suggest that CIA manipulations were the primary reasons the Shah came to power, as he had already had that power long before the events that once again propelled him into that leadership role, and it ignores all the history of Europes intervention in the region and the modern Soviet Unions intentions in the region.

    It is simplistic tripe to suggest that the Shah was in charge simply because of CIA intervention as postulated by a Liberal "hate America first" crowd in order to repeat the distortions and lies that America is the great evil in the world and everyone else is just being manipulated by us.

    Why don't you start here and then get back to me:

    Brief History of Modern Iran

    Good source on the Shaw:
    Mohammad Reza Pahlavi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Need a clue? Here's one...
    New York Times Special Report: The C.I.A. in Iran

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran



    Notice US bases bordering Iran, if they try **** we will blow them to hell.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    My sources had much more information and history. I see that you continue to prefer to wallow in willful denial rather than comprehend the whole story.

    But of course you prefer a story that puts the entire event on the American CIA because it fits with your hate America first mentality.

    Carry on.

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