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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So you think equating the current recession as equal to the "great depression" isn't “chicken little” and an attempt to fear monger in an effort to promote a Liberal agenda that is sinking this nation into a 9.3 trillion deficit for the next nine years?

    You have a funny definition of the term; but this can be explained by your "selective" outrage at those on the "right."

    Carry on.
    I'm technically on the right, so your statement is pretty amusing. I just call bull**** when I see it, and there are a few people in this thread who bitched when people were bashing Bush, only to turn around and lambaste Obama.
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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I take it as an honor that you only gave my quote a 1 to 10 rating.

    My reasoning is based on history.
    Begging is weakness.
    Obama did nothing.
    In fact, they pissed all over his olive branch.
    "Death to America" was chanted as the bearded guy was speaking.
    THAT WAS THE MESSAGE... "DEATH TO AMERICA"

    Here is a segment from a Presidential Brief to Ronald Reagan.
    I think the logic is quite good considering the guy who wrote it knows the area, it's history and its customs... cold.

    You might want to reverse that rating.
    I'd say a 10 is fair.


    And what is so "moronic" about my "absolute weakness" statement?



    Obama was only grasping at straws.
    AND USED THE BIGGEST STRAW FIRST.
    He looks weak to them.
    To those in the region.

    Does "DEATH TO AMERICA" when their leader is speaking mean anything?

    Iranian Bugs:
    Errr ahhh... What's up Doc?
    What a ya gonna give me Big Guy?

    .
    Ummm... The "Moron Rating" was your scale. I did not give you anything on it, I was quoting your asinine post. Do you spew out so much BS that you forget which is yours?

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057965584-post2.html

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer
    ]Is it a new start or "overcharge"?

    Naive.
    Foolish.
    These people are going to use and abuse Obama like they did Carter.

    Now we know what Carter was doing at the White House.

    Explaining how to handle the Iranians Carter style.

    Maybe Obama will send his good buddy Khalidi as envoy.

    On the 1 to 10 MORON SCALE... this is a 9.

    Why?
    Because these folks see this as a signal of absolute weakness.


    http://www.herbcohenonline.com/PDF/U...DING_ISLAM.pdf
    http://www.herbcohenonline.com/PDF/F...nd%20Media.pdf
    http://www.herbcohenonline.com/PDF/F...6%20Reagan.pdf
    Last edited by First Thought; 03-25-09 at 10:31 AM.
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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Cost?
    Please explain.
    I've been doing as much the whole time in this thread, but thanks for asking anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    We have had Democrats and the AMMP (Democrat Propagandists) aid the enemy on a daily basis in what seemed like you folks were hoping for setbacks.
    When you start seeing mainstream political parties as traitors it should really be a clue that you're looking at the world through a pinhole.
    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Success is the last thing the left wanted.
    I don't know anyone that didn't want democracy for Iraq or doesn't want the troops home ASAP. Do you define "success" by a permanent US presence? That's what the left doesn't want.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    never mind
    Last edited by Slippery Slope; 03-26-09 at 05:57 PM.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    More revisionist history. Carters meddling was the demise of the Shah's regime which is why we are where we are with them today.
    WRONG. It was the overthrow of the democratically elected government and installation of the Shah (so oil profits could continue) by the CIA which got us to where we are with them today... actually, that and Bush 43 labeling them as part of the axis of evil even when they were originally helping us with Afghanistan.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote:Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    So you think equating the current recession as equal to the "great depression" isn't “chicken little” and an attempt to fear monger in an effort to promote a Liberal agenda that is sinking this nation into a 9.3 trillion deficit for the next nine years?

    You have a funny definition of the term; but this can be explained by your "selective" outrage at those on the "right."

    Carry on.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I'm technically on the right, so your statement is pretty amusing. I just call bull**** when I see it, and there are a few people in this thread who bitched when people were bashing Bush, only to turn around and lambaste Obama.
    I see you continue to have difficulty answering questions to you and dealing with the issues. Your "selective" outrage is noted however.

    Carry on.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    WRONG. It was the overthrow of the democratically elected government and installation of the Shah (so oil profits could continue) by the CIA which got us to where we are with them today... actually, that and Bush 43 labeling them as part of the axis of evil even when they were originally helping us with Afghanistan.
    Your amusing revisionist history of Iran is trite but farcical.

    Why do you fabricate the events that led up to the Shah’s taking power; because it fits your narrow and myopic political views?

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Your amusing revisionist history of Iran is trite but farcical.

    Why do you fabricate the events that led up to the Shah’s taking power; because it fits your narrow and myopic political views?
    why dont you explain why its trite but farcical? [just for the novelty value if nothing else]

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    why dont you explain why its trite but farcical? [just for the novelty value if nothing else]
    A simple google search on the history of Iran is all that is required Dave. Are you too lazy to do your own research?

    It is trite and farcical to suggest that CIA manipulations were the primary reasons the Shah came to power, as he had already had that power long before the events that once again propelled him into that leadership role, and it ignores all the history of Europes intervention in the region and the modern Soviet Unions intentions in the region.

    It is simplistic tripe to suggest that the Shah was in charge simply because of CIA intervention as postulated by a Liberal "hate America first" crowd in order to repeat the distortions and lies that America is the great evil in the world and everyone else is just being manipulated by us.

    Why don't you start here and then get back to me:

    Brief History of Modern Iran

    Good source on the Shaw:
    Mohammad Reza Pahlavi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I see you continue to have difficulty answering questions to you and dealing with the issues. Your "selective" outrage is noted however.

    Carry on.
    You think that just because I dislike hyperpartisan parrots like Zimmer and yourself that I have "selected outrage" towards the right?
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