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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I thought it was the conservative right that complains endlessly about how being PC is destroying our nation. The guy makes a little retard joke about himself and look at the whining...
    "...a little retard joke"??? Your choice of words is up to snuff with Obammy's.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    In all honesty I never thought Obama was going to take Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran off the table. I mean come on, look at the people the SOB surrounds himself with. Hillary being SoS is one big reason Obama wouldn't take war off the table. Its all smoke and mirrors to appease anti-war liberals and to say "Hey I tried". Mark my words, if Obama is a one term president he will push for war before he leaves.
    So Foreign Policy is only a stage act with no meaning?
    He does not want to make Iran an ally?

    PS. It will never happen with the Kooks in power... unless Obama gives the terrorists a pass on all fronts.
    Their last message to us was "DEATH TO AMERICA".
    That was the response to Obama.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    So Foreign Policy is only a stage act with no meaning?
    Are you asking this pertaining to Obama's policy or foreign policy in general?


    He does not want to make Iran an ally?
    In my opinion its about 50-50 at this point.


    PS. It will never happen with the Kooks in power... unless Obama gives the terrorists a pass on all fronts.
    You have more faith in the guy than I do. I dont trust his anti-war stance with Hillary that close to him.

    Their last message to us was "DEATH TO AMERICA".
    That was the response to Obama.
    No ****, thats been their message to us since the 70s.
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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    How about we find out before we start talking about how it's just going to fail.
    Did you "wait" to find out if Iraq or the surge would be a failure before you claimed it was?

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Are you asking this pertaining to Obama's policy or foreign policy in general?
    In this instance I was asking about foreign, but I see you have even less faith in them.
    I thought that was virtually impossible.

    In my opinion its about 50-50 at this point.
    I think the only way Obama would strike is if we had no option. Then it would be too late. One of our allies would be hit. If Israel strikes he can stand back and wag his finger of contempt. He's good at that.
    You have more faith in the guy than I do. I dont trust his anti-war stance with Hillary that close to him.
    Seems so.


    No ****, thats been their message to us since the 70s.
    Some people just don't get it.
    I'd bet most Leftists didn't understand the real message.
    Obama was grasping at straws and used the biggest one first. The Office of The President of the United States.

    And these people are so damn smart it hurts.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Well you would be WRONG as usual then; apparently your selective perceptions won't permit you to see the whole story so I shall help you:

    Khamenei set the bar impossibly high - demanding an overhaul of U.S. foreign policy, including giving up "unconditional support" for Israel and halting claims that Iran is seeking nuclear arms. Iran insists its nuclear program is only for peaceful energy purposes.
    Although I didn't specifically mention these issues, my point was still obvious; I was referring mainly to Ahmedinejad's comments, as I hadn't heard specifically what Khamenei said in response to Obama's comments. Nevertheless, my point still stands.

    First, the unconditional support for Israel is as I said "a precondition on which the US government (and yourself) cannot budge".

    Second, the claims that Iran is seeking nuclear arms is not unreasonable at all, given that there is no proof whatsoever of these claims and thus they are simply slander and fearmongering.

    So I don't really know what you mean when I was wrong, when what you posted is exactly to what I was referring.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    So now that the election is over the right says the war has been won?

    I guess it's too late for Obama to be a surrender monkey after all. Sweet.

    I'm actually pretty sure things are going to get messier as we start leaving. I hope Iraq makes it, but in the end we can't be the ones to prop them up. Only they can assert themselves as a nation, and it probably won't always be what we would've hoped for.

    It will still be a breeding ground for terrorism threatened by suicide bombings and under the effects of Iranian influence for quite some time. "Better than Saddam" is a remarkably low bar considering the lives and treasure spent on this war.

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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by cascadian View Post
    So now that the election is over the right says the war has been won?

    I guess it's too late for Obama to be a surrender monkey after all. Sweet.

    I'm actually pretty sure things are going to get messier as we start leaving. I hope Iraq makes it, but in the end we can't be the ones to prop them up. Only they can assert themselves as a nation, and it probably won't always be what we would've hoped for.

    It will still be a breeding ground for terrorism threatened by suicide bombings and under the effects of Iranian influence for quite some time. "Better than Saddam" is a remarkably low bar considering the lives and treasure spent on this war.
    We are leaving 50 to 60 thousand troops.
    Not exactly leaving them to fend for themselves.
    This will go on for Obama's 4 years as he won't want to be the guy responsible for screwing up victory.


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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by cascadian View Post
    So now that the election is over the right says the war has been won?
    Nah, we've been saying it all along. Good thing you've finally caught up though.

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    I guess it's too late for Obama to be a surrender monkey after all. Sweet.
    Don't be disappointed now. There's plenty of room in Afghanistan for an Obama ****-up.

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    It will still be a breeding ground for terrorism threatened by suicide bombings and under the effects of Iranian influence for quite some time. "Better than Saddam" is a remarkably low bar considering the lives and treasure spent on this war.
    I'm sure the same liberal sentiment was felt when "Better than Hilter" arguments were posed.
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    Re: Obama calls for new start with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Nah, we've been saying it all along. Good thing you've finally caught up though.
    Well I'll admit I don't spend a lot of time reading conservative commentary, but when McCain said Obama's plan was like surrendering I don't think he was trying to appeal to the center.
    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Don't be disappointed now. There's plenty of room in Afghanistan for an Obama ****-up.
    Gee, would have been nice to think about that, I don't know ... about 7 years ago. The Russians didn't win there, Bush didn't win there and I don't expect much from that place any time soon no matter what we do.

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    I'm sure the same liberal sentiment was felt when "Better than Hilter" arguments were posed .
    ?? Are you saying FDR wasn't a liberal?

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