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    Re: IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    oh forget it...
    Awww...
    Are you now going to go back to the basement and cry about me not admitting I'm wrong -- when I am so very clearly not?

    The woman and child were killed because of a standing order not being countered in time, not, as you'd prefer to see it, because of some degree of moral depravity among Israeli soldiers.

    You don't have to like reality, but you really should accept it.

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    Re: IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    As I said:
    The woman and child were killed because of a standing order not being countered in time, not, as you'd prefer to see it, because of some degree of moral depravity among Israeli soldiers.

    Keep tilting at those windmills, Don.
    Do you not see anything wrong with a standing order that would allow a mother and two children to be killed by a sniper?

    Sorry but Israeli Military IS at fault for even having a standing order like this.

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    Re: IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Do you not see anything wrong with a standing order that would allow a mother and two children to be killed by a sniper?
    There is nothing inherently wrong with a 'let no one pass' order.

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    Re: IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Awww...
    Are you now going to go back to the basement and cry about me not admitting I'm wrong -- when I am so very clearly not?

    The woman and child were killed because of a standing order not being countered in time, not, as you'd prefer to see it, because of some degree of moral depravity among Israeli soldiers.

    You don't have to like reality, but you really should accept it.
    And you think it is normal to make orders like that?

    Do you know that it means "kill civilians"?

    Are you aware that when Hamas people try to kill Israeli civilians, they're labelled terrorists?

    Why couldn't we conclude that it was a terrorist order, and that this IDF sniper is a terrorist?

    Oh you don't need to answer, it was already in the article: "Palestinian lives worth so much less than an Israeli live"

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    Re: IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There is nothing inherently wrong with a 'let no one pass' order.
    That has to be the most incredible thing I've read this month

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    Re: IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    And you think it is normal to make orders like that?
    Wait... you have some idea what sort of orders are 'normal'?
    How much time have you spent in combat?
    How much of that time was spent in command?
    Last edited by Goobieman; 03-19-09 at 12:20 PM.

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    Re: IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    That has to be the most incredible thing I've read this month
    As I have said:

    You don't have to like reality, but you really should accept it.

    Now, off to the basement with you, snotty nose and all.

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    Re: IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement

    I do honestly believe that had the sides been switched in this instance that there would be much outrage and gnashing of teeth directed at the Palestinians.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I do honestly believe that had the sides been switched in this instance that there would be much outrage and gnashing of teeth directed at the Palestinians.
    The Palestinians would have been called every name under the sun starting with 'terrorist'


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    Re: IDF in Gaza: Killing civilians, vandalism, and lax rules of engagement

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There is nothing inherently wrong with a 'let no one pass' order.
    Of course not to you, because it is Israel. However if the Palestinians did this you would call them murderous terrorists.

    Simply put there is something VERY wrong with having an order that would allow a mother and two children to be shot by a sniper on anyside, but because it is Israel and the people dead are Palestinians you couldn't care less.

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