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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Not everyone subscribes to that religious ideology. I certainly don't. It's absurd to expect everyone to.
    It would be equally absurd to expect the Pope to advocate anything that would going against a fundamental teaching of the Church.
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Sure. Abstinence is the safest method, but I believe that asking people to go against their primal nature is sure to fail most of the time. I know that abstinence was not a feasible option for me, thus protection and not sleeping with promiscuous women has worked for me so far.
    The primary problem in these parts of the world where HIV/AIDS is most prevalent is the lack of empowerment in women to make their own sexual decisions. That is where we need to focus our efforts.
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The primary problem in these parts of the world where HIV/AIDS is most prevalent is the lack of empowerment in women to make their own sexual decisions. That is where we need to focus our efforts.
    I agree entirely.
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It would be equally absurd to expect the Pope to advocate anything that would going against a fundamental teaching of the Church.
    I completely agree.

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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Where did you get I was saying ignore condoms all together?

    I was just saying that the proper wording is in fact SAFER and not SAFE is all.

    I think I clarified that in my last statement that I would rather them be educated in proper condom use than abstinence alone.
    That post wasnt directed at your or anybody. Where have i indicated that it was directed at you? I just took a quote, and made a simple statement because somebody earlier basically said condoms dont actually work and only serve to make the user feel safe. Which is incorrect.
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It would be equally absurd to expect the Pope to advocate anything that would going against a fundamental teaching of the Church.
    so the question becomes why are their teachings so obviously flawed
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    so the question becomes why are their teachings so obviously flawed
    How are they "obviously flawed"?

    If you and your partner followed the church's teachings -- that sex should be reserved for a committed marital relationship, in which you should be well aware of your partner's HIV status, among other things (which, unless extraordinarily unlucky, should be HIV-free, having followed those teachings), then your risk of contracting or spreading HIV is low to nil.

    People love to latch on to the "no contraceptives" part, but ignore the rest of it.
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    so the question becomes why are their teachings so obviously flawed
    What do you suggest? That the bible is re-written?
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    How are they "obviously flawed"?

    If you and your partner followed the church's teachings -- that sex should be reserved for a committed marital relationship, in which you should be well aware of your partner's HIV status, among other things (which, unless extraordinarily unlucky, should be HIV-free, having followed those teachings), then your risk of contracting or spreading HIV is low to nil.

    People love to latch on to the "no contraceptives" part, but ignore the rest of it.
    None of it works.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Perhaps because the Muslims in northern Africa are doing exactly what the Pope suggests?
    African Muslims are better Catholics than actual Catholics? LOL
    Perhaps the catholics in Africa need to take a leaf out of the Qu'ran then xD

    Btw, we do in some parts use condoms when needed ...
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