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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    He is spreading the Catholic agenda to... wait for it... CATHOLICS. His words are for Catholics to adhere to. If you don't like the Pope, leave Catholicism. Easy enough.
    From my experience most people don't leave, they just follow the parts they feel like, and the rest they forget about it, or sweep it under the rug.

    The African's that want to live will ignore the Pope. A lot of them probably think he's crazy anyway.
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

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    God never had to give such a revalation because the LDS church has never discriminated.
    Are you serious, or just playing dumb?

    The black priesthood ban fall would come from pressure by the U.S. Congress and from problems determining whether or not a person in Latin America was eligible to hold the priesthood, especially when the temples started to be constructed.
    The full fall of the priesthood ban took place over a period of many decades, but in 1979, President Spencer W. Kimball announced that the time had come for blacks to hold the priesthood and an official declaration was placed at the end of the Doctrine and Covenants.
    Although there were political pressures and monetary concerns that may have contributed to the announcement, the declaration was given in theological terms. After the ban was lifted, many blacks were ordained into the priesthood.

    Read more: "Mormonism's Black Priesthood Ban: People of African Descent Were Not Able to be Ordained until 1978" - Mormonism's Black Priesthood Ban: People of African Descent Were Not Able to be Ordained until 1978
    Mormonism's Black Priesthood Ban: People of African Descent Were Not Able to be Ordained until 1978

    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS)cannot escape their racist past. For nearly 150 years, the Mormon Church had taught that ALL blacks were cursed. Hence, a black Mormon male could not hold the highly regarded LDS Priesthood1 because of his dark skin. And since he could not hold this Priesthood, he could not enter the Mormon Temple. This doctrine in no way, shape, or form can be substantiated in Scripture. Only in the LDS scriptures does this racist doctrine exist.
    Mormons and Black Skin

    Like other denominations, Mormonism -- organized in 1830 -- once taught that blacks were descendants of Cain, Adam and Eve's son who was banished after murdering his brother Abel, and of Ham, Noah's son who broke a taboo when he looked at the nude body of his drunken father. In what became known as the "curse of Ham," Noah condemned to slavery the descendants of Ham's son Canaan.
    Mormon theology added the belief that blacks embodied spirits that had fought on God's side in a celestial battle of Good vs. Evil but had performed "less valiantly."
    Powell said that the church, which has about 48,000 Washington area members, rejected its earlier teachings on race two decades ago, when leaders proclaimed that "all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color."
    But as the June 6 anniversary of that proclamation approaches, some white and black Mormons have pressed for an outright admission that past teachings on race were erroneous.
    Black Mormons Resist Racist Apology Talk

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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    From my experience most people don't leave, they just follow the parts they feel like, and the rest they forget about it, or sweep it under the rug.

    The African's that want to live will ignore the Pope. A lot of them probably think he's crazy anyway.
    So then why get in a tizzy when the Pope makes a declaration?
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS


    I was not aware of this fact. It saddens me. I will ask about it on Sunday.

    I suppose no religion is perfect.

    To you I would say --- Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

    Also ... YOU dodged MY question!

    How many African American Catholics do you know?

    How many African American Catholic Clergyman do you know?
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    The U.N.? Are you kidding me? The U.N. is a joke.
    Yeah, what good is the UN for dealing with major diseases
    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis_eradication[/ame]

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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I was not aware of this fact. It saddens me. I will ask about it on Sunday.
    So what did you find out?

    I suppose no religion is perfect.
    I would agree.

    To you I would say --- Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
    What? Quoting Jesus only works when you are debating a Christian.

    Also ... YOU dodged MY question!

    How many African American Catholics do you know?

    How many African American Catholic Clergyman do you know?
    None off of the top of my head. My point was that your church orchestrated an official ban on blacks being priests. As far as I know, Catholics have never done this. Feel free to prove me wrong.
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    So then why get in a tizzy when the Pope makes a declaration?
    Are you agreeing?
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    Are you agreeing?
    No, but if your statement is true then this declaration is meaningless, since only those who want to listen will heed his call.
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    No, but if your statement is true then this declaration is meaningless, since only those who want to listen will heed his call.
    That's how Catholic's are in the states and probably most of the western world, but you get in the Third World countries, and they are still into some odd practices. I think the pope should have just not said anything about condoms cause this disease affects children as well as adults, and it's almost cruel for him to throw such an antiquated doctrine at backward people. Button up is usually the best way to go when you don't know what you're talking about.
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    Re: Concerns Over Popes Rejection of Condoms for Combating AIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Vader whats the LDS church?
    Latter Day Saints. Mormonism.
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