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    Pope in Africa says church must help the poor

    YAOUNDE, Cameroon – Pope Benedict XVI urged Cameroon's bishops Wednesday to defend the traditional African family from the dangers of modernity and secularization and to spare the poor from the impact of globalization.

    On his first African pilgrimage, Benedict also called it the duty of all Christians — particularly those with political and economic responsibilities — to contribute to the building of a "more just world where everyone can live with dignity."

    The pope met with Cameroon President Paul Biya, one of Africa's longest-ruling strongmen, who has been in power since 1982 and recently was accused by the Amnesty International rights organization of seeking to crush political opposition.
    The Catholic Church must help the poor. An honorable idea. I wonder what kind of help the poor in Africa need and who this help is supposed to be provided by. Is it supposed to be provided by dictators like Paul Biya who have mock elections every few years? Is he talking about helping the poor by opposing the use of contraceptives such as condoms? Essential if one has any hope of stopping AIDS? I doubt it.
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    Re: Pope in Africa says church must help the poor

    Religion bashers.



    Seriously, you are critisizing someone who is offering help? Seriously?
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    Re: Pope in Africa says church must help the poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Religion bashers.
    How is it bashing it? Or are you afraid of answering the questions I posed?

    Seriously, you are critisizing someone who is offering help? Seriously?
    And I asked what kind of help this is. Telling a continent full of uneducated poor people who have sex like rabbits that they can't use condoms is NOT helping. Posing beside dictators named in the same group as Mugabe, Mbasogo & Mswati is not helping. So do you have anything to support the notion that the pope is actually offering to help Africa's poor? Even after he poses for photo-ops with Paul Biya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    How is it bashing it? Or are you afraid of answering the questions I posed?

    From your article:

    "In a briefing to reporters, Lombardi noted the pope was expressing a long-standing Vatican position. He said Benedict wanted to stress that a reliance on condoms distracted from the need for proper education in sexual conduct."

    You disagree?



    And I asked what kind of help this is. Telling a continent full of uneducated poor people who have sex like rabbits that they can't use condoms is NOT helping. Posing beside dictators named in the same group as Mugabe, Mbasogo & Mswati is not helping. So do you have anything to support the notion that the pope is actually offering to help Africa's poor? Even after he poses for photo-ops with Paul Biya?
    again from your article:


    "In a briefing to reporters, Lombardi noted the pope was expressing a long-standing Vatican position. He said Benedict wanted to stress that a reliance on condoms distracted from the need for proper education in sexual conduct."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    From your article:

    "In a briefing to reporters, Lombardi noted the pope was expressing a long-standing Vatican position. He said Benedict wanted to stress that a reliance on condoms distracted from the need for proper education in sexual conduct."

    You disagree?
    Ummmm yes considering :

    Catholic Church's Opposition To Condom Use Contributes To Spread Of HIV In Latin America, UNAIDS Official Says

    The Roman Catholic Church's opposition to condom use is contributing to the spread of HIV in Latin America, Alberto Stella -- UNAIDS coordinator for Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica -- said on Monday, Reuters reports.

    "In Latin America, the use of condoms has been demonized, but if they were used in every relation, I guarantee the epidemic would be resolved in the region," Stella said. He added that youth "start to be sexually active between 15 and 19 without sex education" -- a factor that contributes to the spread of HIV. In addition, evidence indicates that promoting abstinence is "not working," according to Stella.
    Simply speaking, the naïvité of the Catholic Church and it's record on sexual education do not fit the 21st century world. It didn't fit the 20th century either. Or do you think that saying that opposing condom use in continents populated by largely uneducated religious majorities is the correct path to stopping the spread of diseases like AIDS?

    again from your article:

    "In a briefing to reporters, Lombardi noted the pope was expressing a long-standing Vatican position. He said Benedict wanted to stress that a reliance on condoms distracted from the need for proper education in sexual conduct."
    Repetition does not mean you have a point. Or are you now going to argue that the pope is helping poor people in Africa by posing with their dictators?
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    Re: Pope in Africa says church must help the poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Telling a continent full of uneducated poor people who have sex like rabbits that they can't use condoms is NOT helping.
    Do you think Africans are too stupid, or too morally bankrupt to learn to control the behaviors that spread AIDS?

    ..do you have anything to support the notion that the pope is actually offering to help Africa's poor?
    Africa | Catholic Relief Services --and that's just the USCCB. Worldwide, Catholic charitable services are leaders in caring for those in need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Do you think Africans are too stupid, or too morally bankrupt to learn to control the behaviors that spread AIDS?


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    Well using condoms is one of those behaviors that is helpful in preventing the spread of AIDs.

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    Re: Pope in Africa says church must help the poor

    How about the Pope advocates the use of condoms in Africa, just maybe it'll help with HIV


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    Re: Pope in Africa says church must help the poor

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well using condoms is one of those behaviors that is helpful in preventing the spread of AIDs.
    Is it working? Or is it sending a mixed message that might actually CONTRIBUTE to the spread of AIDS?

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    Re: Pope in Africa says church must help the poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Pope in Africa says church must help the poor



    The Catholic Church must help the poor. An honorable idea. I wonder what kind of help the poor in Africa need and who this help is supposed to be provided by. Is it supposed to be provided by dictators like Paul Biya who have mock elections every few years? Is he talking about helping the poor by opposing the use of contraceptives such as condoms? Essential if one has any hope of stopping AIDS? I doubt it.
    So...you are getting all pissy because the pope suggests that his organization should...help?

    I don't understand you at all.

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