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    Re: Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

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    Like Barney Frank & Maxine Waters the said truth is Pelosi probably isn't going anywhere.
    And you know, that really is pretty sad. She is so loud and so out in left field she makes it hard on other Dems/Libs. Guilt by party association.
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    Re: Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    And you know, that really is pretty sad. She is so loud and so out in left field she makes it hard on other Dems/Libs. Guilt by party association.
    I honestly can't count more then 5 Democrats that I know that think Pelosi isn't a lunatic, and I know a lot of Democrats.
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    Re: Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

    Illegal jobs shouldn't need protection. Why? Because they shouldn't be illegal.

    Immigrants should easily and quickly be able to get work visa's and shouldn't be pushed to work illegally.
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    Re: Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I didn't vote for Pelosi (even if I lived in her state and district I wouldn't have) and have never liked her.
    Wrong; you voted FOR Pelosi when you voted and sided with a Democrat majority on the false partisan Rhetoric that Republicans were corrupt and spending away our surplus into deficits.

    By the way, who DID you vote for? What Senator of Congressperson? Letís see if their policies are so much different from Pelosiís.

    We all know you were all over it for Obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Many Democrats have very good ideas, some don't.
    Wrong; MOST Democrats have terrible ideas and pander to the ignorant masses with Government largess in order to hold onto the political power they desire more than they care about what is GOOD for the country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Many Republicans have very good ideas, some don't.
    On this point you would be correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    The Republicans in Congress are just as guilty as the Democrats on screwing this country with regard to illegal immigration.
    I am not sure how anyone can arrive at this contorted conclusion. When Bush attempted to reform immigration he was viciously attacked by Republicans as being FOR amnesty.

    Democrats more than Republicans can be blamed for looking the "other" way when it comes to illegal immigration and Pelosi, whom you rightfully expose, is not in the minority but rather in the majority opinion when it comes to Democrats attitudes towards illegal immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    The difference between you and I seems to be that I can lay down my partisanship on this issue and call a spade a spade.
    This made me laugh. You never lay down your "partisan" issues; you're just attempting to look like someone who does.

    The difference between you and I is that I can recognize an inconsistency when I see it. YOU voted for and supported Democrat majorities, wallowed in the lies and distortions that it took to win them, and now you are reaping what you sowed and don't like what you are starting to see. The notion that you can set aside your rabid Liberal Partisanship is quite amusing to me.
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    Re: Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    And you know, that really is pretty sad. She is so loud and so out in left field she makes it hard on other Dems/Libs. Guilt by party association.
    You actually think she is different than Barney Franks, Maxine Waters, Harry Reid, Schumer, Biden.....etc etc etc.....

    It begs the question, where have you been?

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    Re: Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

    And who exactly doesn't hate Maxine Waters and Barney Frank?? I don't know anyone! Well truthfully most of the dems I know IRLprobably don't even know who Barney Franks and Maxine Waters are. That's the sad truth of it.

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    Re: Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Illegal jobs shouldn't need protection. Why? Because they shouldn't be illegal.

    Immigrants should easily and quickly be able to get work visa's and shouldn't be pushed to work illegally.
    I have no issue with immigrant workers. But we need to intelligently develop a quota system that meets the needs of our labor pool. We don't need that labor pool diluted to the point that it artificially drives down wages. The problem is that illegal immigrant workers aren't just workers, they are very often members of large family groups that are here. It's the additional strain on health care, schools, and the criminal justice system that is the other side of the issue. If we were just talking about individual illegal immigrant workers that would be one thing, but this is a family culture. And I'm sensitive to that. I don't want to see a child go without health care or education regardless of whether or not they are legal. I don't want to see parents separated from their children by the authorities, whether or not they are legal.

    I used to be very much on the side of immigration reform to speed up the process. But what I have found is we really need to get a handle on the situation before just decide to begin mass issuing of work visas simply for the sake of taking the "illegality" out of illegal immigration. We need some kind of structure that we have control over. We need to see to the needs of this country and it's citizens first and foremost. Immigrant workers are a resource for this nation and we should treat them as such. "Anchor babies" should be disallowed, the number of dependents an immigrant worker can bring with them to this country should be regulated, we should have an immigrant worker income tax provision that would help offset some of the costs of caring for immigrant workers and their dependents.

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    Re: Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Illegal jobs shouldn't need protection. Why? Because they shouldn't be illegal.

    Immigrants should easily and quickly be able to get work visa's and shouldn't be pushed to work illegally.
    We are in partial agreement here, but what I want to know is who is "pushing" these people to work illegally in the US? Did someone FORCE them to illegally cross the border and "illegally" find work?

    I believe that our Governments deliberate avoidance of enforcing and improving our immigration laws is farcical. For too long they have looked the other way when immigrants who were here legally and allowed their visas to expire and then stayed as long as they PAID their taxes. For too long they have looked the other way when States like California run by Democrats deliberately thumb their noses at our immigration laws. For too long it has looked the other way to reform, modernize and improve the way we allow work visas to labor we desperately need in this country.

    But to suddenly suggest that Pelosi's attitudes towards this issue are new is to admit that one has been wallowing in denial for too long.

    We need a system that improves and streamlines our Governments ability to approve work visas, to enforce the law when those visas have expired or not been renewed, and to allow those who work in this country for a period of time legally on those visas to become permanent citizens. This reform should also rout out SS# fraud and allow employers to perform quick and easy visa checks and SS checks online to verify whether someone is in the country legally.

    You can't blame employers when States like California hand out driverís licenses without even the most basic background check on valid SS numbers.

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    Re: Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Wrong; you voted FOR Pelosi when you voted and sided with a Democrat majority on the false partisan Rhetoric that Republicans were corrupt and spending away our surplus into deficits.
    No, I didn't. You spin this anyway you want, but I didn't vote for Pelosi. Your hyper partisan is showing again.

    By the way, who DID you vote for? What Senator of Congressperson? Letís see if their policies are so much different from Pelosiís.
    I've actually voted for Roy Blunt and Kit Bond because I like what they have done for my state and my district.

    We all know you were all over it for Obama.
    Yes I was and I have no problem with that. I don't have to agree with everything he does, he's doing many things that I wanted him to do. You can't have it all.

    Wrong; MOST Democrats have terrible ideas and pander to the ignorant masses with Government largess in order to hold onto the political power they desire more than they care about what is GOOD for the country.
    Sorry TD, I won't let you shout me down with your typical hyper partisan rhetoric again. You bloviate way too much like this. Really you should be more concise and just type "I HATE DEMS AND LIBS AND MY IDEAS ARE BETTER BECAUSE I SAY THEY ARE!" It's all you really ever end up saying.

    On this point you would be correct.
    I know, I was there.


    I am not sure how anyone can arrive at this contorted conclusion. When Bush attempted to reform immigration he was viciously attacked by Republicans as being FOR amnesty.
    Right, you go ahead and stick with this. And what did the Republicans in Congress actually do?

    Democrats more than Republicans can be blamed for looking the "other" way when it comes to illegal immigration and Pelosi, whom you rightfully expose, is not in the minority but rather in the majority opinion when it comes to Democrats attitudes towards illegal immigration.
    Hogwash. It's ambivalence on Congress' part on this matter. It's been a problem through Republican and Democratic presidencies and congressional majorities. Don't even pretend that you are going to get away with framing this up in a manner that allows your hyper partisan rhetoric to actually bloom red flowers.

    This made me laugh. You never lay down your "partisan" issues; you're just attempting to look like someone who does.


    The difference between you and I is that I can recognize an inconsistency when I see it.
    You are certainly consistent, I'll give you that. It's not necessarily a good thing either.

    YOU voted for and supported Democrat majorities,
    I sure did because the Republicans proved to me they are just as bad if not worse.

    wallowed in the lies and distortions that it took to win them,
    Blah blah blah bloviating and such....

    and now you are reaping what you sowed and don't like what you are starting to see.
    I've never liked Pelosi and this isn't a new issue. You keep building that box though.

    The notion that you can set aside your rabid Liberal Partisanship is quite amusing to me.
    The notion that you can find any "rabid" liberal partisanship in my posts is quite amusing to anyone with enough intellectual horsepower to actually register for this forum.

    You can stop now if all you are going to do is blow hot air. We get it, you don't like Dems or Libs. At any cost.

    Next.
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    Re: Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You actually think she is different than Barney Franks, Maxine Waters, Harry Reid, Schumer, Biden.....etc etc etc.....

    It begs the question, where have you been?
    How many Representatives and Senators are there?
    *insert profound statement here*

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