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    Russia rebuilding military to neutralize Nato 'Threat'

    President Dmitry Medvedev, who seeks to improve chilly ties with the United States, on Tuesday said Russia would rearm its military and boost nuclear forces because U.S.-led NATO is expanding towards Russia's borders.

    Russia to rearm military as NATO expands: Medvedev

    "Attempts to expand the military infrastructure of NATO near the borders of our country are continuing," Medvedev told an annual meeting with the Defence Ministry's staff.

    Russia has described plans by the previous U.S. administration to grant NATO membership to ex-Soviet Ukraine and Georgia, and to deploy elements of a U.S. missile shield in Eastern Europe, as a direct threat to its national security.

    Moscow has said it appreciates U.S. President Barack Obama's intention to give their ties a fresh start, though Medvedev, who will meet Obama in London on April 1, has said he expects Washington to match declarations with deeds.

    Medvedev told Russia's top military brass that the prospect of NATO's expansion, combined with a threat of local crises and international terrorism, "requires a modernization of our armed forces, giving them a new modern shape."

    He said Russia had the resources to fund this modernization, despite the current economic crisis.
    "The primary task is to increase the combat readiness of our forces. First of all, our strategic nuclear forces. They must be able to fulfill all the necessary tasks to ensure Russia's security," Medvedev said.

    "Another task on our agenda is the transfer of all combat units into the category of permanent readiness."

    Medvedev said the large-scale modernization of the army and navy would begin in 2011.
    Russia to rearm military as NATO expands: Medvedev

    This is what you get when a stupid republican decides to build a military defence shield conviently beside Russia to defuse an Iranian threat to the west that currently does not exist. Place it in Turkey or in Israel for god sakes. WHY the eastern bloc?
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    Re: Russia rebuilding military to neutralize Nato 'Threat'

    Because it's supposed to also send a message to the Russians?


    Medvedev means Bear; literally "eater of honey". Some suggest it's also possible that it means "knower of honey" ("Med" is honey; similar to "Mead").

    I think he is living up to that persona. He is getting all the honey in the world, while Putin continues his dominance of the Russian politics.
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    Re: Russia rebuilding military to neutralize Nato 'Threat'

    No nation's freedom is in place because they are percieved by others as weak.
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    Re: Russia rebuilding military to neutralize Nato 'Threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Russia to rearm military as NATO expands: Medvedev

    This is what you get when a stupid republican decides to build a military defence shield conviently beside Russia to defuse an Iranian threat to the west that currently does not exist. Place it in Turkey or in Israel for god sakes. WHY the eastern bloc?


    The "shield" provides about as much protection as a panty liner. It doesn't freakin work. And the Russians know this. Their repeated efforts to get in our faces are merely a pathetic attempt to persuade themselves that they are still a superpower. Their thinking is 30 years out of date. We should ignore this nonsense and avoid getting sucked backward in time -- otherwise, he next thing you know we'll be building a wooden stockade around Washington to keep the Apaches out.

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    Re: Russia rebuilding military to neutralize Nato 'Threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    This is what you get when a stupid republican decides to build a military defence shield conviently beside Russia to defuse an Iranian threat to the west that currently does not exist. Place it in Turkey or in Israel for god sakes. WHY the eastern bloc?
    No, this is what you get when you have such blind partisan bigotry and/or BDS.

    The MDS planned for Europe does not affect the Russian nuclear deterrent in any way. The Russians know this, and they also know that if they up enough stink about it, people like you will fall for it, and blame Bush for the up-scaling of Russian military activity.

    That is, the Russians are using the MDS as an excuse to flex their muscle to their own ends, and rather than recognize it for what it is, you blame Bush.

    To answer your question:
    To work properly as a post-apogee midcourse/terminal phase defense system, the MDS must be situated near the area that it is to defend. Both Turkey and Israel are too close to the supposed Iranian launch sites to defednd Europe.

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    Re: Russia rebuilding military to neutralize Nato 'Threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by HelloDollyLlama View Post
    The "shield" provides about as much protection as a panty liner. It doesn't freakin work
    This is a baseless assertion.


    Their thinking is 30 years out of date. We should ignore this nonsense and avoid getting sucked backward in time
    What you fail to realize is that it doesnt matter if they are 30 years out of date -- if they continue to act in a cold war manner, we are forced to react in a cold war manner.
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    Re: Russia rebuilding military to neutralize Nato 'Threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by HelloDollyLlama View Post
    The "shield" provides about as much protection as a panty liner. It doesn't freakin work. And the Russians know this. Their repeated efforts to get in our faces are merely a pathetic attempt to persuade themselves that they are still a superpower. Their thinking is 30 years out of date. We should ignore this nonsense and avoid getting sucked backward in time -- otherwise, he next thing you know we'll be building a wooden stockade around Washington to keep the Apaches out.
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    Re: Russia rebuilding military to neutralize Nato 'Threat'

    What none of you seem to realize is that for Russia the 'Cold War' never ceased.

    True there was a short pause, but after the KGB (FSB) regained control of Russia, they pushed vast quantities of (Oil and Energy) money back into a rearmament policy.

    Russia having repelled two aggressors seeks to deter any future aggressive behavior by any Nation that may at some time prove to be a threat.

    Whether NATO (which to my mind is a paper tiger, individual countries within it's ranks decide whether to help or not based on their individual beliefs) and the West also decide to rearm is immaterial.

    The Russian pschye is such that they must always be ready for invasion by any other Nation or coalition of Nations.

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    Re: Russia rebuilding military to neutralize Nato 'Threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Because it's supposed to also send a message to the Russians?


    Medvedev means Bear; literally "eater of honey". Some suggest it's also possible that it means "knower of honey" ("Med" is honey; similar to "Mead").

    I think he is living up to that persona. He is getting all the honey in the world, while Putin continues his dominance of the Russian politics.
    Exactly my point, thats precisely what i believe. So why are American politicians denying this?

    The "shield" provides about as much protection as a panty liner. It doesn't freakin work.
    Russia wants to restablish its sphere of influence again and its happening; economic instability and general instability in the eastern bloc states is as a result of a power shift. This shield will trash its hopes of restablishing fully that sphere of influence, or at least partially mess it up for them. This shield i useless. Its for Russia and Russia only; that is the agenda behind this mess. Its not for us Europeans, ignore them.
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    Re: Russia rebuilding military to neutralize Nato 'Threat'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No, this is what you get when you have such blind partisan bigotry and/or BDS.

    The MDS planned for Europe does not affect the Russian nuclear deterrent in any way. The Russians know this, and they also know that if they up enough stink about it, people like you will fall for it, and blame Bush for the up-scaling of Russian military activity.

    That is, the Russians are using the MDS as an excuse to flex their muscle to their own ends, and rather than recognize it for what it is, you blame Bush.

    To answer your question:
    To work properly as a post-apogee midcourse/terminal phase defense system, the MDS must be situated near the area that it is to defend. Both Turkey and Israel are too close to the supposed Iranian launch sites to defednd Europe.
    And where exactly are these launch sites then, Goobieman?

    Who said anything about nucleur warheads anyway
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