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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Again, you are not selling your penis or your vagina or your hand if you are a prostitute. Not any more than you are selling body parts if you use them to work in any other profession.

    And prostitution is only degrading to someone if THEY think it is. What is degrading is subjective. Personally, I find waitressing to be one of the most degrading jobs I've ever performed. THAT was FAR more degrading than prostitution could ever dream of being. Regardless, if someone wants to engage in a profession that someone else happens to find degrading (like waitressing), then who has the right to tell them they can't? No one. And, just because someone feels that a profession is degrading is no reason to keep or make it illegal.

    So, whether or not you or anyone else finds the profession degrading is quite irrelevant.


    But see, that's the thing... It's never free. For anyone. If you don't go to a pro, then you have to find someone and convince them to have sex with you. Spend money and time on them. It's never free.

    It's just that some people (prostitutes and their clients) are the ones that are honest about that fact.


    It already is just like any other job. Some people just like to keep their head in the sand.
    Yeah waitresses are exactly the same as whores It remains as unconvincing today as it was when you first claimed it.

    As far as comparing all women to whores and proclaiming that a hooker ain't selling her body let's break it down:

    Man walks into the brothel and converses with a whore. For this much money what can I have? Whore says well you can't use my vagina, you can't use my ass, nor my mouth, and I ain't using my hands.

    How much is she gonna get paid???

    NOT A FREAKING PENNY. WHY? CAUSE UNLESS SHE AGREES TO SELL HERSELF HE AIN'T BUYING.

    As far as comparing my relationship and all relationships to the man and the whore it just doesn't fly. I can tell my man, "I don't want to have sex today," without him leaving. Nothing he gives me is contingent on my need to have sex with him on demand. A man's relationship with a whore is completely 100% contingent on her letting him use her body for money on demand.

    Anything else is just .

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    When you get paid so a man can use your body that's selling yourself; selling yourself short.
    Use my body? You mean like someone uses my body to fetch them food? Or uses my body to paddles their asses down a river? Or uses my body to dig ditches for them? Or uses my body to clean sewers? Or uses my body to enter data into a computer? Or uses my body to massage theirs? Or uses my body to rub callouses off their feet? Or uses my body to harvest their food for them?

    Everyone's body is used.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    You mean like someone uses my body to fetch them food?
    Damnit where is my beer!!

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Use my body? You mean like someone uses my body to fetch them food? Or uses my body to paddles their asses down a river? Or uses my body to dig ditches for them? Or uses my body to clean sewers? Or uses my body to enter data into a computer? Or uses my body to massage theirs? Or uses my body to rub callouses off their feet? Or uses my body to harvest their food for them?

    Everyone's body is used.
    No I mean use your body like:

    Vagina cost such and such

    Mouth cost such and such

    Ass cost such and such......

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    No I mean use your body like:

    Vagina cost such and such

    Mouth cost such and such

    Ass cost such and such......
    What is so special about those parts over say a master craftman's hands?

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Are female customers "janes" like men are "johns" ?


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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What is so special about those parts over say a master craftman's hands?
    Clearly there's something special about them. If a man is paying a prostitute he wants her mouth on his dick, not talking. He wants to use her vagina or ass, not hold her hand.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Yeah waitresses are exactly the same as whores It remains as unconvincing today as it was when you first claimed it.

    As far as comparing all women to whores and proclaiming that a hooker ain't selling her body let's break it down:

    Man walks into the brothel and converses with a whore. For this much money what can I have? Whore says well you can't use my vagina, you can't use my ass, nor my mouth, and I ain't using my hands.

    How much is gonna get paid???

    NOT A FREAKING PENNY. WHY? CAUSE UNLESS SHE AGREES TO SELL HERSELF HE AIN'T BUYING.

    Well, let's break it down like this:

    Man is interviewing serving wenches and asks how much work will they do for x amount of money. Wench says well you can't use my hands, you can't use my legs, nor my mouth. I wouldn't walk across the room for that amount of money.

    How much is gonna get paid???

    NOT A FREAKING PENNY. WHY? CAUSE UNLESS SHE AGREES TO SELL HERSELF HE AIN'T BUYING.

    As far as comparing my relationship and all relationships to the man and the whore it just doesn't fly. I can tell my man, "I don't want to have sex today," without him leaving. Nothing he gives me is contingent on my need to have sex with him on demand.
    Nothing? Nothing at all? You mean, he could completely ignore you, not speak to you, not interact with you on any level and you'd still have sex with him whenever he wanted? Could he beat you and you'd still have sex with him? Or is having sex with him contingent upon his actions and relationship with you?

    A man's relationship with a whore is completely 100% contingent on her letting him use her body for money on demand.
    A man's relationship with a serving wench is completely 100% contingent on her letting him use her body for money on demand.

    Anything else is just .
    My point exactly.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    No I mean use your body like:

    Vagina cost such and such

    Mouth cost such and such

    Ass cost such and such......
    Or my hands costs such and such to massage you with
    My mouth costs such and such to answer telephones for you
    my legs costs such and such to walk back and forth
    My entire body costs such and such to use it to perform labor for you


    So, where's the difference?

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Damnit where is my beer!!
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