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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Whats your source on that? Keep in mind call girls are not street walkers.
    Street walking is not legal in Nevada. Currently sex can only be legally bought or sold in a Brothel that follows regulation.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Street walking is not legal in Nevada. Currently sex can only be legally bought or sold in a Brothel that follows regulation.
    Call girls are not street walkers. Escort services are illegal as well.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So does anyone have a problem with two people who meet at a bar and have wild sex that night? Or is it only when he hands her fifty dollars the next morning does it suddenly become taboo?
    There's something empty about one night stands and anyone who has enough of them comes to that realization. But it's not nearly as shady as debasing sex to the point that you're selling yourself.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Street walkers are NOT legal prostitution in Nevada, so it is YOU who doesn't know what the hell you are talking about. We are talking LEGAL here, so go put your head back into the bible and quit bothering everyone.

    You asked how would legal prostitution be run. I gave you how they would be run giving CURRENT ESTABLISHMENTS.

    Now you are just being obtuse with your comments.
    He was making the point that even though it's legal in certain areas of Neveda there are more illegal prostitutes doing the same thing as the legal ones. Why would they not go legal is a good question. I'd say because for the average ho it's not profittable to go legit.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    He was making the point that even though it's legal in certain areas of Neveda there are more illegal prostitutes doing the same thing as the legal ones. Why would they not go legal is a good question. I'd say because for the average ho it's not profittable to go legit.
    Better guess would be because there's more of a demand for it in Vegas, where it ISNT legal. I know if I had my choice of a brothel and moving to some other part of the state, or stay independent, I'd stay independent and live where I wanted. Especially if most of the business was in Vegas, which it likely is.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    There's something empty about one night stands and anyone who has enough of them comes to that realization. But it's not nearly as shady as debasing sex to the point that you're selling yourself.
    *sigh* You're not 'selling yourself' in prostitution any more than you are 'selling yourself' in any other profession. Why is that you and others seem incapable of getting that FACT through your heads? If you consider prostitution to be 'selling yourself', then it logically follows that you must consider engaging in ANY profession to be 'selling yourself'. There is no other logical consistency.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    I would love to be a madam at a local brothel. Alot of my friend think it would be a good profession for me. Of course, my brothel would be female and male and cater to all people. I'm an equal opportunity employer.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    *sigh* You're not 'selling yourself' in prostitution any more than you are 'selling yourself' in any other profession. Why is that you and others seem incapable of getting that FACT through your heads? If you consider prostitution to be 'selling yourself', then it logically follows that you must consider engaging in ANY profession to be 'selling yourself'. There is no other logical consistency.
    *sigh* We get what you're saying. We just don't agree that it's not a selling of a body part. In our society when you use your penis or vagina, mouth, hand, to give someone sexual pleasure, you are selling that part of your body, but the terminology for it is "selling yourself". That's what it is. You are trying very hard to say it's just like any other profession and to you it may be, but to most people it's different, and it quite possibly always will be. It's true that some professions are lower than others, but prostitution and the sex trades are not only low, they are degrading, but the degrading is different. It is what it is. I can't describe it with words. Someone else would have to do that cause I'm not eloquent enough.

    There are people who may use the trade they are in to tantalize people and possibly make them want to actually have sex, and they are just as bad as prostitutes in that way, I'd be talking about strip clubs and pornography.

    I can remember when they started having strippers for women and it was all the craze. The women used to go nuts over it, but I honestly believe for most women it was just silly, and for many it was embarrassing. I never went because my husband didn't want me to, but I honestly didn't want to. I have a man at home that can do a dance for me if I want it and he would be more than happy to do it for me. I realize not all women are as lucky as I am, and they might want to have this happen for them, and they can go ahead and do it, but if you don't get the whole enchilada it's not that much fun in my book. Men usually pleasure themselves quite a bit from my knowledge of the species, so the ones who actually are going for the prostitutes must need the human touch and this is really kinda sad that they can't get it for free. Free, is ok to me, whether married or not, but when you put a pricetag on it, it becomes prostitution and a different ballgame.

    There would have to be a de-stigmatization with this profession for it to be just like any other job. The attributes or stigma from Wiki-pedia are:
    (Sociological Theory), the phenomenon whereby an individual with an attribute, which is deeply discredited by his/her society, is rejected as a result of the attribute.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    *sigh* We get what you're saying. We just don't agree that it's not a selling of a body part. In our society when you use your penis or vagina, mouth, hand, to give someone sexual pleasure, you are selling that part of your body, but the terminology for it is "selling yourself". That's what it is. You are trying very hard to say it's just like any other profession and to you it may be, but to most people it's different, and it quite possibly always will be. It's true that some professions are lower than others, but prostitution and the sex trades are not only low, they are degrading, but the degrading is different. It is what it is. I can't describe it with words. Someone else would have to do that cause I'm not eloquent enough.
    Again, you are not selling your penis or your vagina or your hand if you are a prostitute. Not any more than you are selling body parts if you use them to work in any other profession.

    And prostitution is only degrading to someone if THEY think it is. What is degrading is subjective. Personally, I find waitressing to be one of the most degrading jobs I've ever performed. THAT was FAR more degrading than prostitution could ever dream of being. Regardless, if someone wants to engage in a profession that someone else happens to find degrading (like waitressing), then who has the right to tell them they can't? No one. And, just because someone feels that a profession is degrading is no reason to keep or make it illegal.

    So, whether or not you or anyone else finds the profession degrading is quite irrelevant.

    Men usually pleasure themselves quite a bit from my knowledge of the species, so the ones who actually are going for the prostitutes must need the human touch and this is really kinda sad that they can't get it for free. Free, is ok to me, whether married or not, but when you put a pricetag on it, it becomes prostitution and a different ballgame.
    But see, that's the thing... It's never free. For anyone. If you don't go to a pro, then you have to find someone and convince them to have sex with you. Spend money and time on them. It's never free.

    It's just that some people (prostitutes and their clients) are the ones that are honest about that fact.

    There would have to be a de-stigmatization with this profession for it to be just like any other job. The attributes or stigma from Wiki-pedia are:
    It already is just like any other job. Some people just like to keep their head in the sand.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    *sigh* You're not 'selling yourself' in prostitution any more than you are 'selling yourself' in any other profession. Why is that you and others seem incapable of getting that FACT through your heads? If you consider prostitution to be 'selling yourself', then it logically follows that you must consider engaging in ANY profession to be 'selling yourself'. There is no other logical consistency.
    When you get paid so a man can use your body that's selling yourself; selling yourself short.

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