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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If prostitution were federally illegal why is it legal in certain counties of Nevada?

    IOW Jerry prostitution is NOT federally illegal since federal always goes over state laws.
    What you quoted didn't claim that prostitution was Federally illegal, so wtf are you talking about?

    Honestly the pro-prostitution side hasn't brought a strong argument here. How pathetic.

    I'm setting aside my objection to prostitution to see if any of you have thought this through. Clearly no one yet has.

    What....you just want the state to back off? Yeah right, that is NOT going to happen. If the state smells money they'll go after it.

    Some on this thread have said that they want it legal so that it can be made safe. Fine. How, exactly, will the regulation make it safe? Some argue that making it regulated will prevent sex-slave trafficking. Fine. What specific safe guards would be in place?

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What you quoted didn't claim that prostitution was Federally illegal, so wtf are you talking about?

    Honestly the pro-prostitution side hasn't brought a strong argument here. How pathetic.

    I'm setting aside my objection to prostitution to see if any of you have thought this through. Clearly no one yet has.

    What....you just want the state to back off? Yeah right, that is NOT going to happen. If the state smells money they'll go after it.

    Some on this thread have said that they want it legal so that it can be made safe. Fine. How, exactly, will the regulation make it safe? Some argue that making it regulated will prevent sex-slave trafficking. Fine. What specific safe guards would be in place?
    I elect people to take care of that ****. I think tree cutting services should remain legal too, but you don't see me coming up with or trying to modify any 'business plans' or specific regulations. Aint my job.

    So if your argument is that the pro-freedom side has a weak argument due to not having outlined some 'business plan' or a spreadsheet of specific regulations and how everything would work down to the local level, then I must say that your argument is not only weak, but pathetically desperate.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh ok, I can't, even though I already did in our True Debate on prostitution, I can't

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    Let's say I want to open a business where I'll own a small fleet of party busses. These busses, witch already exist in Denver, take high-rollers as customers and drive around the city swapping out prostitutes as they go.

    Think of them as strip clubs on wheels.

    Charter busses already require a commercial license with taxi and air brake endorsements to operate. However, that's assuming everyone onboard is sitting down. Here, only the customers will be sitting down, while the prostitutes will be dancing on installed polls.

    Will my driver need another endorsement to operate this buss?

    How will dancers affect my bus's insurance?

    Let's say I also want a wet bar on every bus. Clearly I would need a liquor license and a licensed bartender in addition to the driver, but does the driver now need a haz-mat endorsement?

    I'll need 2 bouncers, also. One to watch the "floor" and one to screen independent licensed prostitutes as we swap them out. Easy enough there, these are regular employees.

    However, do I need to record the license number, how long I had them and an itemized list of services they provided? If so, how does the state want me to record this information? What municipal authority do I give the report to? Can I be audited?

    What penalty do I face if I use unlicensed prostitutes?

    Can I simply charge each independent prostitute a flat fee and let them worry about the rest?

    Can I charge each customer a cover charge and impose a 2-drink 2-trick minimum?

    I also want a live feed from each buss to my website......
    Jerry your questions are answered by contacting the EXISTING establishments.

    You refuse to, so feign ignorance all you want, noone is buying it.

    The answers are, run it like existing LEGAL brothel establishments in Nevada.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    So does anyone have a problem with two people who meet at a bar and have wild sex that night? Or is it only when he hands her fifty dollars the next morning does it suddenly become taboo?
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Jerry your questions are answered by contacting the EXISTING establishments.

    You refuse to, so feign ignorance all you want, noone is buying it.

    The answers are, run it like existing LEGAL brothel establishments in Nevada.
    You don't know for yourself how they are run, so you don't know what "run it like existing LEGAL brothel establishments in Nevada" means or how that contradicts your other arguments on this thread.

    Yes, if you support tree cutting reform you should be able to point out specific things you want addressed; such as a commercial license, OSHA 10Hr certification, basic power-line safety certification, demolitions license (my grandfather uses that one for large stump removal), OSHA chainsaw certification, that you want independent tree cutters to have full coverage on their truck, an 'Accidental Death and Dismemberment" policy for each employee, and similar.

    Most of the prostitutes in Nevada are street walkers, btw, so regulations for brothels donít apply to them.

    You would have known that if you had a clue of what you were talking about

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    Most of the prostitutes in Nevada are street walkers, btw, so regulations for brothels donít apply to them.
    Whats your source on that? Keep in mind call girls are not street walkers.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So does anyone have a problem with two people who meet at a bar and have wild sex that night?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Or is it only when he hands her fifty dollars the next morning does it suddenly become taboo?
    Just keep in mind that if you're asking the government to approve it, they will want their cut of that $50.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Just keep in mind that if you're asking the government to approve it, they will want their cut of that $50.
    So just like any other place of employment, the government takes their cut. I will keep that in mind.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So does anyone have a problem with two people who meet at a bar and have wild sex that night? Or is it only when he hands her fifty dollars the next morning does it suddenly become taboo?
    For me there are moral issues with anyone meeting a stranger and having "wild" sex. Wild sex in this instance is in the eyes of the beholder. Might be due to the liquor. Might be from a date rape drug. Might just be what someone thinks they want. Don't know, and don't really care, but the date rape drug, or too much alcohol might be a problem for me if one party is taking advantage of another.

    The money part is where I have the biggest problem. This is a lowering of standards for the country. Our standards in many instances are pretty low already without the government condoning people having sex. You want sex for free, more power to ya. You want someone to pay for it, I say no. When the government starts putting it's stamp of approval on something it can undermine the foundation of our country, which are geared towards family-life.

    I don't think prostitution and rearing children meshes well in any society.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You don't know for yourself how they are run, so you don't know what "run it like existing LEGAL brothel establishments in Nevada" means or how that contradicts your other arguments on this thread.

    Yes, if you support tree cutting reform you should be able to point out specific things you want addressed; such as a commercial license, OSHA 10Hr certification, basic power-line safety certification, demolitions license (my grandfather uses that one for large stump removal), OSHA chainsaw certification, that you want independent tree cutters to have full coverage on their truck, an 'Accidental Death and Dismemberment" policy for each employee, and similar.

    Most of the prostitutes in Nevada are street walkers, btw, so regulations for brothels donít apply to them.

    You would have known that if you had a clue of what you were talking about
    Street walkers are NOT legal prostitution in Nevada, so it is YOU who doesn't know what the hell you are talking about. We are talking LEGAL here, so go put your head back into the bible and quit bothering everyone.

    You asked how would legal prostitution be run. I gave you how they would be run giving CURRENT ESTABLISHMENTS.

    Now you are just being obtuse with your comments.

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