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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Also, the brothels serve as a means to protect prostitutes.

    Not necessarily, the brothel is nothing more than a "legal pimp", or employer if you will. Like any good business model, the object is to maximize profits.

    IMO, taking care of your employee's is a high priority and can add substantially to the overall succes of an operation in regard to meeting the objective.

    However, my view isn't shared by all in the business world. So just because you provide a legal working environment, doesn't mean you are looking after the best interest, or safety, of your employee's.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Do you think prostitution is legal in these countries?



    Legality of prostitution I do not think is a causation of sex related human trafficking.
    Making prostitution illegal everywhere most certainly wouldn't put an end to it. However, the places where prostitution is legal are also the places where the business is biggest - even used as a tool to lure tourists in cases - and it is not a coincidence that they are the most common destinations for a sex slave to end up. The human trafficking unfortunately doesn't take voluntary sex workers from places where the business is legal and export them to where it is illegal. The exact opposite occurs. The legal places are the biggest importers and supporters of human trafficking.

    The intrinsic nature of the problem can be seen by watching how the incidences of human trafficking has a booming rise after prostitution is made legal.

    Also I know how you all hate morals so. But there is also an intrinsic relationship between paying to use a woman like a disposable scratching post that you have zero obligation to and treating women like disposable scratching posts in general. Men should care if the whore they're paying is a miserable being with no self worth, abused, drug addicted, etc; as well as having a concern for whether or not they genuinely are a voluntary sex worker. But the very nature of the transaction allows him to just pay a fee to use and **** her.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    This is your emotional opinion.
    It's my emotional opinion that women shouldn't be for sale?

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    It's my emotional opinion that women shouldn't be for sale?
    It's your emotional opinion that a woman selling sex would be considered a woman being for sale.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Do you think prostitution is legal in these countries?



    Legality of prostitution I do not think is a causation of sex related human trafficking.
    Well this is a bit of a shock to me. Prostitution is legal in Israel:


    Prostitution in Israel is legal but pimping, maintaining brothels and trafficking is illegal.[1]

    Prostitution in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    What about China?

    Well it is apparently illegal in China:

    While the government of the People's Republic of China (PRC) has always taken a hard line on organisers of prostitution, it has vacillated in its legal treatment of prostitutes, treating them sometimes as criminals and sometimes as behaving with misconduct. Since the reappearance of prostitution in the 1980s, government authorities have responded by first using the legal system, that is, the daily operations of institutions like courts and police

    Prostitution in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    It's my emotional opinion that women shouldn't be for sale?
    Yes. That is a choice to be made by the individual. It is her body, not yours.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Israel has a huge human trafficking problem. Women from the Soviet Union are enslaved by the Russian mob and forced to work as sex slaves in Israel.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Israel has a huge human trafficking problem. Women from the Soviet Union are enslaved by the Russian mob and forced to work as sex slaves in Israel.
    Then it sounds like your problem is with Russia.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    It's your emotional opinion that a woman selling sex would be considered a woman being for sale.
    So when you go to a brothel and the women come out and line up are you not picking out a woman? Are you not purchasing her time? As well as her body? Are you under any obligation whatsoever to find out about her life, the voluntary nature of her sex work, or even her name? Are you under any obligation to do anything? Are you not paying to use her flesh? Is she or isn't she under an obligation to allow herself (her body) to be selfishly used by you?

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    So I am noticing that three of the four sources here claim human trafficking has increased in Las Vegas, where prostitution is illegal. Seems like there is a spurious relationship between human trafficking and legal prostitution.

    How do you then come to the conclusion that legalizing prostitution is the cause of increased human trafficking?

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