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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I'd rather my daughter work at McDonalds then be a whore.
    This is probably the best post yet...

    For all of those supporting legalization, I'd like to see a show of hands. Would you rather see your daughter earn minimum wage at McDonald's or make $20 for a BJ?

    Honest answers only!


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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    NOW you've insulted me.


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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    So, we shouldn't allow the emergence of any more professions because it might tax our court system?
    Nah, just thinking out loud.

    Like I said, I'm impervious to whether it's legal or not. Just like strip clubs, it's not my scene.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Relationships and sex should not be a commodity. Sex should be treated with a certain deference. It is not something to be put up for sale.

    I realize these are my morals. I also realize they are shared by many and I have no issue whatsoever with creating a legal barrier between sex & retail on the basis that lots of folks see it as unethical.
    So just so I'm clear, you're completely comfortable with morality of "lots of folks" being the basis for our laws?

    If so, I hope you don't object to the laws in various Muslim countries that severely restrict women as they fit with the morality of "lots of folks" over there. Burkas, stoning for adultry, women must be escorted by men, all these sort of things are the morality of the majority in many Islamic nations. You don't find these objectionable? Furthermore, if there was ever a Muslim (or strict Christian) majority here, you wouldn't object to similar laws being created and enforced here in the US? Basically, are you ok with the establishing of a theocracy based on the morality of "lots of folks"?

    The problem I have with morality entering into the legal system is simple. Who's morality do we use? You think prostitution is immoral. So do I. But you might think that alcohol is immoral where as I do not. Or I might think that sex outside of marriage is immoral, but you do not. So who's morality do we use there? If we go simply by the majority, then what we have is basically a mob rules society. Hardly ideal.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Yeah so lets just ignore the fact that Nevada is one of the main destinations for human trafficking in the US.
    It is? That is news to me. Is there any articles to back that up and are humans being trafficed being forced into sex industry? I would think more human trafficing happens in TexasArizona and other border states

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    What does human trafficking (something we all agree should remain illegal) have to do with consensual prostitution? It's like saying what someone else said above... landscaping should be illegal because it promote the illegal use of illegal aliens. In other words, It makes no goddamn sense.
    Because when you use sex to make money and create a large demand for the buying of sex greedy folks (mostly men) are going to say, "Hey, you know what? We could be making 10 times what we're making now if only we had more whores. But we don't. How can we get some? Where can we get some?

    Human trafficking exists here in the US. Nevada is one of the main destinations. Why? Because prostitution is legal there. The demand there for "buying sex" is higher than in places where it is not legal. They have more customers than they have voluntary whores.

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post

    The problem I have with morality entering into the legal system is simple. Who's morality do we use? You think prostitution is immoral. So do I. But you might think that alcohol is immoral where as I do not. Or I might think that sex outside of marriage is immoral, but you do not. So who's morality do we use there? If we go simply by the majority, then what we have is basically a mob rules society. Hardly ideal.
    Well supposedly that's why we vote. But shee-it, that's not even working out these days.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It is? That is news to me. Is there any articles to back that up and are humans being trafficed being forced into sex industry? I would think more human trafficing happens in TexasArizona and other border states
    The US federal government believes Las Vegas is a top destination for "human trafficking" victims - from indentured servants to massage parlor workers and prostitutes held captive and forced to commit sex acts.

    This belief has led the Justice Department to grant hundreds of thousands of dollars to Metro Police to tackle the problem.
    HumanTrafficking.org | News & Updates: US Justice Department Names Las Vegas Among 17 Most Likely Destinations

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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Well supposedly that's why we vote. But shee-it, that's not even working out these days.
    So again, you're ok with Taliban like morality laws as long as they are voted in?

    And then why are you bashing New Zealand. They're democraticly elected government voted to legalize prostitution. That should be ok with you if voting is all that matters.
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    Re: Selling sex legally in New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Oh is that what's happening in Amsterdam?
    Proper regulation of prostitution will not eliminate human trafficking (nothing will) but it will make it more difficult to engage in. The Bunny Ranch is a perfect model of legalized prostitution; safe, humane, and efficient. I realize you consider prostitution to be morally repugnant but this is no excuse to drive the practice underground where women have absolutely no recourse to legal protection or safe working environments.

    The only way to ensure human trafficking occurs with regularity and virtual impunity is to create demand for it on the black market. Legalization and proper regulation will help eliminate this demand.

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