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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    I think what is so strange is how many of you are attacking Obama without any understanding of the rationale for this suggestion.

    Yeah, he hates our troops. That's why he appointed Shinseki to be Secretary of VA.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I think what is so strange is how many of you are attacking Obama without any understanding of the rationale for this suggestion.

    Yeah, he hates our troops. That's why he appointed Shinseki to be Secretary of VA.




    He could raise Patton and appointed him. you mess with benefits you are not a friend to the military.


    This is abhorrent.


    Charging vets for thier care.... This would be my top gripe with him if he does this.


    It is a BIG issue.
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I think what is so strange is how many of you are attacking Obama without any understanding of the rationale for this suggestion.
    Can you supply a possible rationale that renders thsi proposal acceptable?

    And... try to be honest here... what would your reaction be if Bush had suggested this?
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    And if you read what Orius said - he said "recent", not "all....."
    The only way hs statement holds any water is if 'recent' ONLY includes Iraq -- and THAT is debateable.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

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    Come on Rev.. 9/11 is the beginning of "asymmetric war" - Afghanistan was an invasion to get Al-Qaeda but it was not a war in the sense of the Afghans coming to storm the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Cold war.
    War by proxy yes - but "defensive???"

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Come on Rev.. 9/11 is the beginning of "asymmetric war" - Afghanistan was an invasion to get Al-Qaeda but it was not a war in the sense of the Afghans coming to storm the US.

    "asymmetric warfare"..... What is the problem with rolling your enemy cause you are stronger?

    Anyway..

    AQ attacked us, hid in Afghanistan, the Taliban, the government in Afghanistan refused to give them up and therefore became a beligerant.

    DEFENSIVE.




    War by proxy yes - but "defensive???"

    yes IMO defensive in nature, the spread of communism was a real threat. It is unfortunate we had to fight by proxy, though the other options were a far greater threat of destruction of all.
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Come on Rev.. 9/11 is the beginning of "asymmetric war" - Afghanistan was an invasion to get Al-Qaeda but it was not a war in the sense of the Afghans coming to storm the US.
    That doesnt make it any less a defenseive war.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    "asymmetric warfare"..... What is the problem with rolling your enemy cause you are stronger?


    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    AQ attacked us, hid in Afghanistan, the Taliban, the government in Afghanistan refused to give them up
    Agree so far...

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    -- and therefore became a beligerant.

    DEFENSIVE.
    Nope, can't agree there. I'm not saying we were wrong to go in but "defensive" it wasn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    :yes IMO defensive in nature, the spread of communism was a real threat. It is unfortunate we had to fight by proxy, though the other options were a far greater threat of destruction of all.
    That is surely one of those "question of perspective" things again - just like "freedom fighter" and "terrorist". For the life of me I cannot agree that ideaological difference equates to the need to fight proxy wars on other people's land and call it "defensive."

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That doesnt make it any less a defenseive war.
    How so?
    We're not talking right or wrong - just "offense / attacking war" or "defensive war."

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    How so?
    We're not talking right or wrong - just "offense / attacking war" or "defensive war."
    When you go to war to go after the people that attacked you, to stop them from atacking you again, you're fighting a defensive war.

    Never mind that the entire offensive/defensive war argument is a red herring.

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