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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    There is a very good reason the government has to insure wounded veterans, and cannot ask them to get private insurance. The private market is not going to provide any coverage. What free market enterprise can offer the coverage necessary to treat guys missing 6 feet of intestine, at an affordable premium? There is a reason that free market insurance doesn't want to cover pre-existing conditions like these. They cannot charge premiums to cover the costs. Or rather they could, but nobody could afford the premium levels.

    I'm not someone who likes being taxed that much, but among the few things I am absolutley be willing to pay taxes for, is for a strong robust military, care for its servicemen while active, and those wounded in the line of duty. These people actually make a difference, and are amongst the very few in our generation that make any kind of sacrifice these days, and the world is a better place because of them. You all supported my health via taxes when I was in the military, and I am proud to support other military members as well with the taxes I pay.
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Dix View Post
    No one is arguing against privatized insurance. That has nothing to do with this.

    Veterans were promised health care for life. That was part of the deal. Esp. wounded vets have earned that. The gov't is supposed to take care of them! That the CIC would try to take that away is such a big betrayal, it's almost beyond belief. The gov't sent them out to fight for their country, to give up part of their lives for their country. In exchange the gov't was supposed to provide health care. You're aware of that, right? The vets can't get those years - or their health - back. Now after the fact he wants to yank that promised benefit? I can't find the words to describe how disgusted I am. My husband is a soldier and *part* of the reason we've put up with the low pay and frequent moves and separations is for the benefits. This is just a really, really horrible way to treat disabled veterans. No CIC has ever screwed over veterans like this before.
    Why would anyone ever enlist again? This is one way to bring back the draft!
    You all are ignoring the fact that VA medical centers are overwhelmed due to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They have been forced to rank veterans and NOT allow some veterans treatment at VA facilities as a result of the influx of new patients. VA gets multiple complaints about how long it takes for veterans to be treated at VA facilities. I would think this would assist veterans in getting more prompt treatment.

    Am I missing something? I don't see where this plan will charge veterans for the treatment they receive for service-connected disabilities from non-VA facilities.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    You all are ignoring the fact that VA medical centers are overwhelmed due to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Irrelevant to the the issue.

    You should be outraged that The Obama wants veterans to pay for their wounds with their own insurance.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Irrelevant to the the issue.

    You should be outraged that The Obama wants veterans to pay for their wounds with their own insurance.
    Please tell me how this plan would make them pay for their wounds.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Am I missing something? I don't see where this plan will charge veterans for the treatment they receive for service-connected disabilities from non-VA facilities.
    I don't have the specifics of what Obama proposed in front of me, but this is via the other thread that was started about this a while ago. A quote from a CNN piece on this...

    Currently, veterans' private insurance is charged only when they receive health care from the VA for medical issues that are not related to service injuries, like getting the flu.

    Charging for service-related injuries would violate "a sacred trust," Veterans of Foreign Wars spokesman Joe Davis said. Davis said the move would risk private health care for veterans and their families by potentially maxing out benefits paying for costly war injury treatments.
    So I am guessing that Obama's plan would be that veterans who have a private insurance policy, would be charged by the VA for service-related injuries, in much the same manner they are charged when they use the VA hospitals for non-service related matters.
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Please tell me how this plan would make them pay for their wounds.
    Did you bother to read the story?

    The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for Treatment

    The plan is for the VA to bill the veterans' private health care insurance company.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I don't have the specifics of what Obama proposed in front of me, but this is via the other thread that was started about this a while ago. A quote from a CNN piece on this...



    So I am guessing that Obama's plan would be that veterans who have a private insurance policy, would be charged by the VA for service-related injuries, in much the same manner they are charged when they use the VA hospitals for non-service related matters.
    But that's not what I read from the article posted in the OP, which states:

    The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.
    Thus, it looks like VA would seek reimbursement from the private insurance carrier--not the veteran. I think people are hypothesizing that somehow this will cause an increase in premiums for veterans.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Did you bother to read the story?

    The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for Treatment

    The plan is for the VA to bill the veterans' private health care insurance company.
    Yes. See my post above. How does this equate to a finding that the veteran will be billed?

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Yes. See my post above. How does this equate to a finding that the veteran will be billed?
    Strawman.
    No one never said the veteran was billed.
    The veterans' insurance is billed; the veteran pays for his insurance.
    Thus, the veteran is paying for his own treatment.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Thus, it looks like VA would seek reimbursement from the private insurance carrier--not the veteran. I think people are hypothesizing that somehow this will cause an increase in premiums for veterans.
    Of course it will. Higher risk = higher premium.

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