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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Oh yeah just toss the "free market" out, LOL



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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    If the legislations is on a go-forward basis, and does not include those already enlisted (and thus legally binded to what the original contract said they'd be entitled to), then I see no foul play. If you volunteer for the military, you are volunteering to potentially die. You know the risks.

    Practically all of the recent American wars have been offensive and not defensive. The soldiers aren't protecting anything that justifies dishing out billions to their health care. Also, how many people enlist in the military just to get those benefits? The same goes for their education.

    The military shouldn't be a free ride when everyone else has to pay out of pocket. And frankly, in these economic times, the military should not get half a trillion dollars in budget per year. I applaud Obama for seeking cut backs.




    You are nuts. you are actually blaming the soldiers for your percieved view of the US and want to punish those who served by violating thier terms of contract?
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I commented about this on another thread a few days ago. Since many in the military are conservative, I suppose socialized medicine is OK only if it takes care of conservatives. There's a word for that...

    hypocrite

    Talk about a hyper-partisan statement. jeesh captain, is this REALLY what you think?

    the military offers health care to troops while serving and certain troops after separation. I have this health care, it was part of a contract I signed, and based on my service in the Gulf war.


    I can use it now, I don't because I have means. but a country is honor bound to take care of its vets. this is not a conservative-liberal thing, this is an AMERICAN thing.....


    I am shocked you of all people would make such a hyper-partisan comment.




    [/SIZE]BTW, I strongly disagree with Obama doing this. Our military deserve better and should receive these benefits.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    This is ironic, so called conservatives arguing against privatized insurance.
    As one of the people that griped about the way the Bush administration handled injured/disabled veterans, what do you think of The Obama's plan?

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Talk about a hyper-partisan statement. jeesh captain, is this REALLY what you think?

    the military offers health care to troops while serving and certain troops after separation. I have this health care, it was part of a contract I signed, and based on my service in the Gulf war.


    I can use it now, I don't because I have means. but a country is honor bound to take care of its vets. this is not a conservative-liberal thing, this is an AMERICAN thing.....


    I am shocked you of all people would make such a hyper-partisan comment.






    Good. I agree.
    Why would you be shocked?

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I commented about this on another thread a few days ago. Since many in the military are conservative, I suppose socialized medicine is OK only if it takes care of conservatives. There's a word for that...

    [SIZE=1]hypocrite
    Hmm. I was thinking 'deliberately inaaccurate, in a desperate attempt to make some inane partisan point'.

    Taking care of wounded veterans and socailizing the health care industry arent realted topics -- so keep beating that straw, man.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Please try to read the entire post before go off on one of your silly tangents:



    Next time, perhaps you will be a little more careful.
    I read it all, including your qualifier... which contradicts some of the previous statement.

    Your qualifier doesn't negate all of your initial statement.
    I commented on that section.
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I don't think you understand. As much as I disagree with Bush's invasion of Iraq I think every soldier their injured in war should have health care.
    So, you think The Obama's plan to have the soldiers pay for their treatment themselves is pretty crappy.
    Right?

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The U.S. is the only developed nation that has socialized health care for its soldiers but not for its own people.
    The health care for the soldiers isn't 'socailized health care', unless you want to change the meaning of that term away from what it is to what it isn't.

    When you have to change the definition of the basic terms of an argument to make that argument sound, it's pretty good sign that you -know- you really dont have a leg to stand on.

    And as for the US not having socialized medicine for its people in general... I thank God for this, every day.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I commented about this on another thread a few days ago. Since many in the military are conservative, I suppose socialized medicine is OK only if it takes care of conservatives. There's a word for that...

    hypocrite

    BTW, I strongly disagree with Obama doing this. Our military deserve better and should receive these benefits.
    It's not hypocrisy, but coming from you that's expected. How is it hypocritical to say the country owes those it asks to put life and limb on the line each and everyday medical care as part of return for their sacrifice. You're attempting to make this political, it's never been and thus fully in line with conservative view points. But you have no real grasp of what a conservativism is all about, thus it's not a surprise you'd come to such a sadly considered conclusion.
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