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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    What I find interesting is that most folks, left and right, are pretty unified on this issue. The VA is a socialized health care entity, one that our military and veterans absolutely deserves, and Obama's plan was idiotic and should, under no circumstances my put in place. I think those on the right should keep in mind those here on the left who supported the military in this situation, just as those on the left need to keep in mind those on the right who showed no hypocrisy in their position.
    How is it socialized? It is a required service for solders.

    You can't expect civilian doctors to fly to a war zone every time there is an injury.

    As for post battle care, if the recurring injury was caused by a something from a government action (war) then its their job to cover the cost. Just like if i get hurt at my work my employee is going to foot the bill. My workers comp is not socialized health care.

    Anyone know what health care military personal get after leaving the military (for non conflict injuries) such as breaking a leg.
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbus View Post
    How is it socialized? It is a required service for solders.

    You can't expect civilian doctors to fly to a war zone every time there is an injury.

    As for post battle care, if the recurring injury was caused by a something from a government action (war) then its their job to cover the cost. Just like if i get hurt at my work my employee is going to foot the bill. My workers comp is not socialized health care.

    Anyone know what health care military personal get after leaving the military (for non conflict injuries) such as breaking a leg.

    depends on there eligibility.


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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Please prove your assertion above. Give us links with percentages. Also define the concept "virtually the entire" so we can be clear.

    Thank you.

    Oh, and if you can't, retract your hyperpartisan hackery.
    LOL.
    How short your memories are.

    You folks are a kick.
    You cannot define socialism, all in an effort to deflect from having no examples of where it is successful over the long haul.
    LOL.

    Now this.
    Another episode of Dances with Libs.

    The party that could not stand to have one Bush supporter in its ranks.
    The party that has LEADERS calling our troops Nazi's.
    The party that has its Senate LEADER declare the war "LOST".
    The party that has LEADERS implying our troops are "stupid".
    The party that has LEADERS calling calling a brilliant General "Betrayus".
    The party that has LEADERS "suspending disbelief" when a General... under oath reports to Congress.
    A party with LEADERS who believe we should let the UN do our fighting; is OK if they do it, but not us.
    The party that voted for a war to save their political skins and then turns on OUR Troops.
    The party that tried to misrepresent something a private citizen with a record of love and 100% support for our troops stated.
    The party that used the Body Count as a weapon against the President and the troops.
    The Party and its LEADERSHIP that made great headlines for Al Jazeera and all the terror loving networks and rags.
    The party that has LEADERS propagandizing for the enemy... on a daily basis.

    In short...
    A party that slashed and burned our military at every turn.
    Every opportunity.
    A party similar to the Rwandans Genocide Machine, but with verbal machetes that raged for years.

    Yes, you folks really are a tolerant, military loving lot.
    You have such a record of love, support, and funding.
    LOL.

    And we need polls to figure this out.
    LOL.

    Do you really believe the press would sanction polls to indicate the hostility of the Democrats to our military and intel services?
    ROTFLMMFAO.

    When they can't report the truth on Rush's meaning of "Fail"?
    Or the truth about AIG?
    LOL.

    How about this for a revelation about the press you believe should poll...LMFAO... for the truth about LIb disdain?
    A "journalist" in a moment of weakness admitting what the game is... "A CRUSADE."

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    Good crusades at the time
    The crusades of Vietnam... seemed like a good idea at the time, even a noble one, not only to the press but perhaps to a majority of Americans. The problem was that, once the AMMP declared its existence by taking sides, there was no going back. A party was born.

    It was not accident that the birth coincided with an identity crisis in the Democratic Party. The ideological energy of the New Deal had faded; Vietnam and various social revolutions of the 60s were tearing it apart. Into the vacuum came the AMMP, which became the new forum for choosing Democratic candidates.
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    YouTube - Nazis! Killers! Losers! Dems Bash American Troops
    YouTube - Swiftboat Veterans Ad on John Kerry - Sellout (2004)
    YouTube - Senator John Kerry -"You get stuck in Iraq"

    There's so much more, but I want to have this post less than a full page.
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    All you need to do is show you understand the concept of socialized health care. But you won't because you can't.

    And because of that, my position and opinion of your position stands...no matter how much bluster you post. You still lose.
    All you need to do is tell me how I am wrong.
    But you won't.
    Because you know you cannot.

    Given that, the position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    All you need to do is tell me how I am wrong.
    But you won't.
    Because you know you cannot.

    Given that, the position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.
    You're right. It's not socialized medicine. At the same time, you must concede that most of the proposals from the Democrats don't qualify as socialized medicine either.

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    LOL.
    How short your memories are.

    You folks are a kick.
    You cannot define socialism, all in an effort to deflect from having no examples of where it is successful over the long haul.
    LOL.

    Now this.
    Another episode of Dances with Libs.

    The party that could not stand to have one Bush supporter in its ranks.
    The party that has LEADERS calling our troops Nazi's.
    The party that has its Senate LEADER declare the war "LOST".
    The party that has LEADERS implying our troops are "stupid".
    The party that has LEADERS calling calling a brilliant General "Betrayus".
    The party that has LEADERS "suspending disbelief" when a General... under oath reports to Congress.
    A party with LEADERS who believe we should let the UN do our fighting; is OK if they do it, but not us.
    The party that voted for a war to save their political skins and then turns on OUR Troops.
    The party that tried to misrepresent something a private citizen with a record of love and 100% support for our troops stated.
    The party that used the Body Count as a weapon against the President and the troops.
    The Party and its LEADERSHIP that made great headlines for Al Jazeera and all the terror loving networks and rags.
    The party that has LEADERS propagandizing for the enemy... on a daily basis.

    In short...
    A party that slashed and burned our military at every turn.
    Every opportunity.
    A party similar to the Rwandans Genocide Machine, but with verbal machetes that raged for years.

    Yes, you folks really are a tolerant, military loving lot.
    You have such a record of love, support, and funding.
    LOL.

    And we need polls to figure this out.
    LOL.

    Do you really believe the press would sanction polls to indicate the hostility of the Democrats to our military and intel services?
    ROTFLMMFAO.

    When they can't report the truth on Rush's meaning of "Fail"?
    Or the truth about AIG?
    LOL.

    How about this for a revelation about the press you believe should poll...LMFAO... for the truth about LIb disdain?
    A "journalist" in a moment of weakness admitting what the game is... "A CRUSADE."

    There's so much more, but I want to have this post less than a full page.
    Standard zimmer soapboxing, with no intention of answering the question as stated. Nice tap dancing, though.

    Beyond the fact that it has been established that you do not know what socialism is, I will ask my questions again:

    Here is your statement:

    OMG, virtually the entire LEFT hates our nation's veterans and active military!
    Please prove this statement with links and percentages demonstrating the concept of "vitually the entire left", and, while you're at it, please define that particular concept. As far as I see, you have 3 choices, now:

    1) Prove your assertion.
    2) Admit that it was nothing but one of your typical hyperpartisan unprovable comments...and be proud of that.
    3) Retract the unprovable hyperpartisan comment.

    Your choice.
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    All you need to do is tell me how I am wrong.
    But you won't.
    Because you know you cannot.

    Given that, the position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.
    All you need to do is show you understand the concept of socialized health care. But you won't because you can't.

    And because of that, my position and opinion of your position stands...no matter how much bluster you post. You still lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    nah ask eggtfibb... old joke.
    Gotcha.



    And I would like to add, non-partisan of course, that Obama has finally kept a campaign promise of bringing dems and repubs together here by "floating" this rediculous idea.
    Very true. Remember that next time everyone is saying that he hasn't kept a campaign promise. He "crossed the aisle" and got everyone together hating this idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    LOL.
    How short your memories are.

    You folks are a kick.
    You cannot define socialism, all in an effort to deflect from having no examples of where it is successful over the long haul.
    LOL.

    Now this.
    Another episode of Dances with Libs.

    The party that could not stand to have one Bush supporter in its ranks.
    The party that has LEADERS calling our troops Nazi's.
    The party that has its Senate LEADER declare the war "LOST".
    The party that has LEADERS implying our troops are "stupid".
    The party that has LEADERS calling calling a brilliant General "Betrayus".
    The party that has LEADERS "suspending disbelief" when a General... under oath reports to Congress.
    A party with LEADERS who believe we should let the UN do our fighting; is OK if they do it, but not us.
    The party that voted for a war to save their political skins and then turns on OUR Troops.
    The party that tried to misrepresent something a private citizen with a record of love and 100% support for our troops stated.
    The party that used the Body Count as a weapon against the President and the troops.
    The Party and its LEADERSHIP that made great headlines for Al Jazeera and all the terror loving networks and rags.
    The party that has LEADERS propagandizing for the enemy... on a daily basis.

    In short...
    A party that slashed and burned our military at every turn.
    Every opportunity.
    A party similar to the Rwandans Genocide Machine, but with verbal machetes that raged for years.

    Yes, you folks really are a tolerant, military loving lot.
    You have such a record of love, support, and funding.
    LOL.

    And we need polls to figure this out.
    LOL.

    Do you really believe the press would sanction polls to indicate the hostility of the Democrats to our military and intel services?
    ROTFLMMFAO.

    When they can't report the truth on Rush's meaning of "Fail"?
    Or the truth about AIG?
    LOL.

    How about this for a revelation about the press you believe should poll...LMFAO... for the truth about LIb disdain?
    A "journalist" in a moment of weakness admitting what the game is... "A CRUSADE."

    There's so much more, but I want to have this post less than a full page.
    I love you Zimmer.
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    Re: The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    All you need to do is tell me how I am wrong.
    But you won't.
    Because you know you cannot.

    Given that, the position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.
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