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    Re: US Engages in Combat with Iranian Military Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    That's the last one, I swear.
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    Re: US Engages in Combat with Iranian Military Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    ...The direct translation from the Iranian government is "wiped off the map." Are you seriously arguing that the Iranian government mis-translated itself, but that you just so happen to be fluent enough in Farsi to catch their mistake and explain what they actually mean?
    If you're that interested in repetition, I'll be happy to oblige. Interesting analysis, considering that numerous government officials denied that this statement was made. Clever strategy they seem to have. He makes the statement, a governmental confirmation is issued regarding the statement...and then the governmental confirmation is rescinded and sources deny that he made such a statement. I'm sure this makes some kind of sense to you!

    Of course, I'm sure you'll be kind enough to post the Iranian government's transcript of his speech?

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    Re: US Engages in Combat with Iranian Military Vehicle

    In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country
    Anyway... Ahmadinejad is a bit of a cartoon. Crazy? I dunno... It's really not that important. It's the Ayatollahs that pull the strings.

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    Re: US Engages in Combat with Iranian Military Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    Anyway... Ahmadinejad is a bit of a cartoon. Crazy? I dunno... It's really not that important. It's the Ayatollahs that pull the strings.
    Contrary to the claims of my friends here, I believe that the Iranian leadership, particularly Supreme Leader Khameini, are not insane or unstable (any more than other heavily religious people are, that is), but shrewd and calculating operators. If they were to obtain nuclear weaponry, they wouldn't launch a deranged jihadist assault, they would restrain themselves for fear of mutually assured destruction.

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    Re: US Engages in Combat with Iranian Military Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Contrary to the claims of my friends here, I believe that the Iranian leadership, particularly Supreme Leader Khameini, are not insane or unstable (any more than other heavily religious people are, that is), but shrewd and calculating operators. If they were to obtain nuclear weaponry, they wouldn't launch a deranged jihadist assault, they would restrain themselves for fear of mutually assured destruction.
    I agree with your assessment, but you are ignoring the advantages of possessing nuclear weapons outside of their actual use. For instance, Iran could launch an aggressive invasion of Iraq and it would become very difficult to stop them because the intervening nation would have to consider the possible consequences of nuclear retaliation. In that sense, nuclear weapons become a license to kill.

    So of course, Iraq and all the rest of Iran's neighbors will want nuclear weapons. The fear is that Iran's possession of "the bomb" will lead to wide scale nuclear proliferation in the region, whether they promulgate the technology themselves or not. Furthermore, how well Iran be able to maintain control of these weapons in the long term? I don't know because I have not studied Iran's power structure and internal stability to any great extent. I can only assume that the unjust, tyrannical regime of Iran will become unhinged eventually.

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    Re: US Engages in Combat with Iranian Military Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Hmmm...secret nuclear power plant...why does this ring a bell?
    So their "peaceful" operations are transparent? Why develop fuel if gurantees are made for its delivery? Why disallow inspectors if its a non-military operation?

    Oh, right! It just so happens that the administration of a certain "other country" in the Middle East was involved in the concealment of their nuclear program from American inspectors upon their visits to the Negev Nuclear Research Center, outside the town of Dimona, in the early 1960's, when they weren't joined at the hip in the USraeli alliance.

    Prime Ministers Ben-Gurion and Eshkol had been advised to comply with inspections "in accord with international standards" by President Kennedy, but they were uncooperative. Prime Minister Levi Eshkol was complicit in this concealment, and is reported to have said, "What am I frightened of? His man [Kennedy's representative] will come and he will actually be told that he can visit [the Dimona site] and go anywhere he wishes but when he wants a door opened at some place or another than [Emanuel] Prat [head of construction at Dimona] will tell him 'Not that.'"
    So you admit that Irans wants the bomb or is this a red-herring to distract attention from Iranian actions?

    As I mentioned earlier, if Iran seeks nuclear weapons (and the issue of whether they're being developed is dubious, as inspection teams have reported a higher degree of cooperation than is depicted in Western media outlets),
    Ohhhh, a "higher degree". WTF does that mean?

    They are not allowing ANY transparency into their work that would unequivocally show the US's claims as meritless. Hmmmmm, I wonder why?

    it is a result of an arms race being initiated by an enemy country with 200+ warheads whose president has not-so-subtly threatened to "wipe them off the map."
    oh of course. Israel has had nukes for 50 years and NOW its suddenly imperative that Iran get them. Because we know that Israel is attempting to annex Iran, block its ports and perform all other manners of aggression even though its not even a border country to Israel.

    The Iranians are travelling the same path Egypt did before the 6 day war. I hope they get their ass'es kicked.
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    Re: US Engages in Combat with Iranian Military Vehicle

    Europe spent almost a decade negotiation with Iran up to about 2006..all they got was Iran using the time to advance their program while telling the Europeans to go **** themselves.

    Russia /China have interest in Iran only in using it as a pawn..neither state has any desires to have the kooky regime in Iran becoming a dominate regional power.


    Iran is clearly seeking weapons only simpletons will look at all the info publicly available and say they are not.

    Iran has threatened repeatedly to exterminate Israel and Jews..there is no doubt of that and nobody can deny it.

    The Left in the USA and the "west" after being called on their bluff has instantly switched form Iran being the REAL ENEMY to excusing Irans of every action. They have also proven beyond any doubt they at they are incapable of standing up to any enemy that fights back anywhere on the face of the planet.


    SO heres the choices.

    1. Back up your mouths and confront Iran even if that requires a war.

    2. Shut up.

    3. Kill Jews and be their friends.


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    You can all thank God the enemies we face today are as weak as they are. If they where anything near what our fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers we would have completely lost by now.

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    Re: US Engages in Combat with Iranian Military Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Do you have a point? Iran possesses the right to develop a nuclear energy program under the terms of the NPT. You'll also note that the Iranian need for nuclear energy was affirmed by the U.S. administration when Iran was a steadfast ally (and possibly under Khatami, if I recall correctly), but suddenly disappeared under Ahmadinejad.

    While I don't doubt that certain elements in Iran desire nuclear weaponry, Israel's possession of undeclared nuclear weaponry has provoked the beginning of an arms race in the region, which is unsurprising, considering that the current president of Israel has made not-so-subtle threats to destroy Iran.
    Israel's current presidency at no point threatened to destroy Iran, stop making **** up. It doesnt play with me. Its Iran that threatens Israel, that openly says it wants Israel destroyed and that funds terrorism (American intelligence sources can back this up for you with a clear foundation) and violates Iraqs terroritorial integrity. Now if a country openly admits it wants to destroy another nation, then embarks on a nucleur programme that does not permit any western spectators other then Irans own spectators in, then how can we be sure that this programme is a safe nucleur programme? The signs are clear, there intentions are deadly. Now shut up, and accept the obvious facts. Israel can be trusted with nucleur weaponary,

    You'll also note that the Iranian need for nuclear energy was affirmed by the U.S. administration when Iran was a steadfast ally
    Because when iran was a steadfast ally they werent hell bent on creating a second jewish holocaust
    And they could be trusted with it at the time. Precisely WHY America realized its need for nucleur energy.
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    Re: US Engages in Combat with Iranian Military Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Contrary to the claims of my friends here, I believe that the Iranian leadership, particularly Supreme Leader Khameini, are not insane or unstable (any more than other heavily religious people are, that is), but shrewd and calculating operators. If they were to obtain nuclear weaponry, they wouldn't launch a deranged jihadist assault, they would restrain themselves for fear of mutually assured destruction.
    Your absolutely right. There not insane or unstable. There evil, clever negotiators, eyeing israel every moment there is, ready to go in and take them out. They will create nucleur weaponary and hand it over to there Jihadist counterparts, the same people they fund. Admedinejad clearly quoted Israels exsitence in the region is unpracticle and there unpracticality needs to be dealt with swifty. Search it up, and stop backing up a terrorist nation you pan-islamist fool.
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    Re: US Engages in Combat with Iranian Military Vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If an Iranian drone was loitering inside Iraq in February, they most certainly were overflying Iraq during Bush's term.
    How is this a certainty?

    Why didn't the Bush administration shoot down the Iranian drones?
    How do you know they did not?

    Appeasement?
    Partisan bigotry?

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