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    Re: HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    People, for the most part, do know how it is spread, yes. Unfortunately, the social-conservative zombies are unwilling to accept the findings.
    I'm a gay conservative man who used to live in DC. As much as I'd like to, I can't blame social conservatives or lack of education for the HIV infections of the gay men I've known.

    Alcohol... drugs... partying... risky behavior. They know the risks. They gamble with the odds. Sometimes they lose.

    Social conservative 'zombies' don't have a thing to do with it.


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    Re: HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%

    Out of curiosity, is there still decent sex-ed in DC schools?

    Moving to TX I was suprised to find that sex-ed was a non-factor for the most part throughout high-school.
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    Re: HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%

    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.infectiousdiseasenews.com/article/37100.aspx
    Blacks, women most affected

    Washington D.C. began HIV surveillance in 2000 using code-based reporting for new HIV cases. Statistics in the report represent data collected between Jan. 1, 2001 and Nov. 16, 2006.

    In 2006, there were 12,428 people with HIV or AIDS in Washington, D.C. Of those, 80.7% were black and 70% men. More than two-thirds of newly-reported HIV and AIDS patients were aged 30 to 49 years.

    Between 1997 and 2006, nearly 70% of all HIV cases progressed from HIV to AIDS in less than one year after initial diagnosis, compared with 39% nationally. Late diagnosis was attributed to late testing.

    Nine percent of pediatric AIDS cases in the United States during 2005 were reported from Washington, D.C. Fifty-six children aged 13 years and younger were diagnosed with HIV or AIDS in Washington, D.C. between 2001 and 2006. Many states reported no new cases among children during the same time.

    Racial disparity was reported in the statistics. Black residents accounted for 57% of the population but accounted for 81% of the newly-reported HIV cases. Black women comprised 58% of all women in the city, but accounted for 90% of all new HIV cases in women. Black children were predominantly affected by HIV (97.3%) and AIDS (95.3%).

    The leading mode of HIV transmission in Washington, D.C. is heterosexual contact, which was reported in 37% of cases.
    People too often use statistics in debate to polarize the HIV/AIDS argument into some sort of stigma for a social class in the population. For instance... it must be the gays, or it must be the blacks, or it must be those people over there.

    They look at the biggest number and place blame. When are people going to realize that every class in society, every race, and every sexual orientation is affected by this heinous disease? It is a worldwide epidemic that is not getting nearly enough coverage by the media. And why? Are we afraid to talk about this creeping killer? The numbers grow yearly.

    I blame silence the most for the spread of this. There is such little dialogue in society about what AIDS represents, and the only dialogue I seem to come across is discussing statistics and which group is the most to blame. Just because heterosexuals have the highest numbers in D.C. does not mean that gays should feel safe; just because blacks have the highest numbers does not mean whites should feel safe. EVERYONE should recognize the larger societal impacts of this illness.

    I don't blame the sex education system. I blame the rest of society. In school, students walk into a sex ed class and it's a very technically, cold explanation of what sexuality and diseases are. Maybe they get to watch a few videos where people give testimony, and maybe then they get to put a condom on a banana. It's all compartmentalized into one room, and when the students leave, they leave that thought process behind them.

    Dialogue on sexuality must be ongoing and part of the general societal dialogue. And I don't mean looking at porn or watching racy t.v shows. There has to be more communication which connects the education with reality, and not in such a textbook fashion. Then people will realize that AIDS is very real, and not some abstract term that they learned in health class.
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    Re: HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You want to, umm, give us some data to back that up?
    It's apparently the fourth most liberal city, behind Detroit, MI; Gary, IN; and San Fran.

    That being said, I think it's obvious that that's not the (sole) reason for the epidemic in DC. In a day and age where there is free 15-minute HIV testing and condoms available to anyone who wants them, there is just no excuse. Embarrassing.
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    Re: HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    People too often use statistics in debate to polarize the HIV/AIDS argument into some sort of stigma for a social class in the population. For instance... it must be the gays, or it must be the blacks, or it must be those people over there.

    They look at the biggest number and place blame. When are people going to realize that every class in society, every race, and every sexual orientation is affected by this heinous disease? It is a worldwide epidemic that is not getting nearly enough coverage by the media. And why? Are we afraid to talk about this creeping killer? The numbers grow yearly.
    It's not quite as egalitarian of a disease as you imply. Among heterosexuals who do not engage in homosexual encounters on the side (or have sex with those who do) and who do not share needles, HIV is incredibly rare. It's astoundingly difficult to get HIV from traditional heterosexual sex. The odds that a man having unprotected vaginal sex with an HIV+ female will get infected is 0.05%. That's nearly infinitesimal. For a female involved in unprotected vaginal sex with a man with HIV, the odds only increase to 0.1%. The two main non-childbirth/non-blood transfusion ways that HIV is transmitted are through:

    1) Unprotected receptive anal intercourse (0.5%), and
    2) IV Drug Needle sharing (0.67%)

    For people who are circumcised, the rate is further cut in half. For those that use condoms, it drops another 85%.

    Simply put, if you're a circumcised heterosexual who uses condoms and only has intercourse with women who don't have sex with bisexual men or use IV drugs, you really don't need to worry about HIV.
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    Re: HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's apparently the fourth most liberal city, behind Detroit, MI; Gary, IN; and San Fran.

    That being said, I think it's obvious that that's not the (sole) reason for the epidemic in DC. In a day and age where there is free 15-minute HIV testing and condoms available to anyone who wants them, there is just no excuse. Embarrassing.
    I was actually more concerend with data that would back up his assertion that sex ed was what was failing.

    You are correct on the points about HIV testing and condoms. There really is no excuse here in the US.

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    Re: HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%

    They waited far too long to allow public funding of needle exchange programs. They didn't lift the ban till 2007 despite the abundance of evidence in support of such programs. They've been shown to work. When you are talking about poor drug addicted minorities sex ed in schools is a non-issue.

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    Re: HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%

    clearly, there is a lot of blame that can be passed around here.

    we can blame the blocks on needle exchange programs
    we can blame poor sex education
    we can blame people for being promiscuous (however you happen do define that)
    we can blame people for not getting tested
    we can blame people for using drugs

    we've been blaming people for the past 25 years, and it doesn't work.

    until, as a society, we're able to talk openly about sex, drugs, and the social barriers that prevent people from protecting themselves, this epidemic is not going away.

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    Re: HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingPianos View Post
    until, as a society, we're able to talk openly about sex, drugs, and the social barriers that prevent people from protecting themselves, this epidemic is not going away.
    Actually, I don't think 'talk' is going to solve the problem. As a gay man, I engaged in risky behavior more times than I'd care to admit. Not because I hadn't 'talked.' Not because I wasn't educated. Not because condoms were unavailable. I didn't it because I was horny and often had had a little too much or way too much to drink. A little alcohol and all cares go out the window.

    It's the same reason normally sane men and women... sometimes highly educated people... will put the key in the ignition and drive home despite their BAC level. Are they aware of the risk at some level? Are they aware they're playing Russian Roulette? Sure. But they do it. Normally they make it home in one piece. But do that enough and sooner or later something's going to happen.

    If you've ever driven drunk, ask yourself.... was it because of lack of 'open talk' about drunk driving in society?

    Fortunately for me... the only thing I ended up with due to alcohol was a DUI charge. I escaped the HIV.

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    Re: HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Actually, I don't think 'talk' is going to solve the problem. As a gay man, I engaged in risky behavior more times than I'd care to admit. Not because I hadn't 'talked.' Not because I wasn't educated. Not because condoms were unavailable. I didn't it because I was horny and often had had a little too much or way too much to drink. A little alcohol and all cares go out the window.

    It's the same reason normally sane men and women... sometimes highly educated people... will put the key in the ignition and drive home despite their BAC level. Are they aware of the risk at some level? Are they aware they're playing Russian Roulette? Sure. But they do it. Normally they make it home in one piece. But do that enough and sooner or later something's going to happen.

    If you've ever driven drunk, ask yourself.... was it because of lack of 'open talk' about drunk driving in society?

    Fortunately for me... the only thing I ended up with due to alcohol was a DUI charge. I escaped the HIV.

    obviously talk alone wont solve the problem. my point is that silence doesn't stop it, it merely pushes it underground and exacerbates the problem.

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