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    Re: What to do with a captured pirate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    I've seen that, thanks. I have no reason to believe toxic wastes were not dumped off the coast of Somalia in the early 1990s.

    That said, if these 'pirates' are truly holding foreign ships ransom because certain western corporations dumped waste and illegally fished Somali waters, then it follows that these 'pirates,' who are acting out of moral outrage, not greed, are using the ransoms obtained to feed and clothe and provide medical support for the oppressed Somali people. No?

    Of course. Apparently they are absolutely viewed as heroes to the villages. They have brought life back into dying fishing villages, along with supplies, money, etc all with the full support of the coastal peoples.

    Somali Pirates Riches Turn Villages Into Boomtowns

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    Re: What to do with a captured pirate

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The Pirates income through pirating has helped to directly restimulate the Somali economy.
    Their use of money has benefitted the towns.

    Somali Pirates Riches Turn Villages Into Boomtowns
    Well certainly. Illegal gains have a way of boosting local economies. Some of our most notorious gangsters have been well dressed...

    They're still gangsters.

    Ain't buying it, sorry.


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    Re: What to do with a captured pirate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Well certainly. Illegal gains have a way of boosting local economies. Some of our most notorious gangsters have been well dressed...

    They're still gangsters.

    Ain't buying it, sorry.

    Of course they're still gangsters. But they're romantic gangsters and they have brought both hope and means to desperate abandon peoples who have no real stable government to speak of. Coastal peoples who made their living fishing seas that now have been over fished and contaminated with toxins. It's hard not to have a certain amount of respect and awe for these men. Aaargh....

    At least the Somalian pirates operate from a moral imperative that is somewhat reasonable.

    The panama canal pirates are just nasty drug lords; or at least I've yet to read anything that made me feel romantic about them.

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    Re: What to do with a captured pirate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Well certainly. Illegal gains have a way of boosting local economies. Some of our most notorious gangsters have been well dressed...
    You think they are gangsters, i think they have done more for Somalia than any politican.

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    Re: What to do with a captured pirate

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    It's hard not to have a certain amount of respect and awe for these men. Aaargh....
    They are more brave than me.
    If US/EU/Chinese navies are on the sea, i'd lock myself in a downstairs celler rather than venture in the sea lol

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    Re: What to do with a captured pirate

    Here's another interesting article...

    They do commonly kill crews of hijacked ships though. They hold the captain and ship for ransom but the crew is commonly killed. It doesn't much matter if you treat the captain well while you're holding him but you have the crew in a freezer. I imagine it's hard to take the ships without killing the crew but still I do remind myself that they're horribly violent when I get too caught up in dreaming about capt'n jack.
    Last edited by talloulou; 03-14-09 at 04:31 PM.

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    Re: What to do with a captured pirate

    If they kill people, when they are in Somalia. They'd be hanged anyway

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    wood chipper?
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    Re: What to do with a captured pirate

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Here's another interesting article...
    Thanks for the link. I clicked through to another article and found this gem:

    BOOSAASO, Somalia:

    This may be one of the most dangerous towns in Somalia, a place where you can get kidnapped faster than you can wipe the sweat off your brow. But it is also one of the most prosperous.

    Money changers walk around with thick wads of hundred-dollar bills. Palatial new houses are rising up next to tin-roofed shanties. Men in jail reminisce, with a twinkle in their eyes, about their days living like kings.

    This is the story of Somalia's booming, not-so-underground pirate economy. The country is in chaos, countless children are starving and people are killing one another in the streets of Mogadishu, the capital, for a handful of grain.

    But one particular line of work piracy seems to be benefiting quite openly from all this lawlessness and desperation. This year, Somali officials say, pirate profits are on track to reach a record $50 million, all of it tax free.
    International Herald Tribune

    Yes indeed. Not pirates at all! But the new freedom fighters... championing clean waters, fishing rights, and the health and welfare of the Somali people....

    Last edited by Grateful Heart; 03-14-09 at 04:58 PM.

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    Re: What to do with a captured pirate

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    They are more brave than me.
    If US/EU/Chinese navies are on the sea, i'd lock myself in a downstairs celler rather than venture in the sea lol
    Oh I know. There are tons of stories and pictures on youtube. It's incredible to see some of the dinghys that are used in the hijacking of huge ass ships.

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