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Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

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Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

Ammiano may be right. A few days after he introduced the bill, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced that states should be able to make their own rules on medical marijuana and that federal raids on pot dispensaries in California would cease. The move signaled a softening of the hard-line approach previous administrations have had to medicinal pot use. The nomination of Gil Kerlikowske as the head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy may also signal a softer federal line on marijuana. If he is confirmed as the so-called Drug Czar, Kerlikowske will bring with him experience as police chief of Seattle, where he made it clear that going after people for posessing marijuana was not a priority of his force.

California was one of the first states in the nation to legalize medical marijuana in 1996. Currently, $200 million in medical marijuana sales are subject to sales tax. If passed, the Marijuana Control, Regulation and Education Act (AB 390) would give California control of pot in a manner similar to alcohol, while prohibiting its purchase to citizens under age 21. (The bill has been referred to the California State Assembly's Public Safety and Health Committees; Ammiano says it could take up to a year before it comes to a vote for passage.) State revenues would be derived from a $50 per ounce levy on retail sales of marijuana and sales taxes. By adopting the law, California could become a model for other states. As Ammiano put it: "How California goes, the country goes."

Damn it. Happiness. Heart attack. California. Damn. It.
 
Yeah by creating a state of unmotivated buffoons. That sure would help the california economy.
 
Yeah by creating a state of unmotivated buffoons. That sure would help the california economy.

Do you drink at work? If you don't then your opinion, position and whatever argument you tried to make is automatically destroyed.
 
Do you drink at work? If you don't then your opinion, position and whatever argument you tried to make is automatically destroyed.





I don't. And your If-then statement makes little actual sense. How is it destroyed, and by what means?
 
I don't. And your If-then statement makes little actual sense. How is it destroyed, and by what means?

Well then there is no reason for me to assume that you drink anywhere other then in a social environment and that it has any effect in your performance in life. Your argument assumes that most people who smoke weed are lazy and have no drive in life. This isn't supported by any kind of statistic on actual smokers. Just what the effects of marijuana can be. Just your opinion. End game? Thanks for playing.
 
go for it California!!!
But, restrictions to legally buy it or smoke it is to be over 21, gainfully employed, and not on welfare or food stamps.
 
Well then there is no reason for me to assume that you drink anywhere other then in a social environment and that it has any effect in your performance in life. Your argument assumes that most people who smoke weed are lazy and have no drive in life. This isn't supported by any kind of statistic on actual smokers. Just what the effects of marijuana can be. Just your opinion. End game? Thanks for playing.




I find most people I come across that smoke weed daily, are usually about weed. As if it is there life. They weed before things like career, family, safety of there children, there own personal saftety, or anything of the like.

It no longer becomes about what ever activity they are doing, but more about how they can get high while doing whatever thing it is they are doing.

I find people like this limited in life and I pity them.


I have no respect for buffoons like this. Sure there are people who use marijuana responsibly, but just like the alcoholic, the chronic weed smoker is not the type of person I would hire, trust, or consider a value to society.



The idiocy, that making weed available could be the sole savior of the California economy is stupid. Nothing but the rantings of a weed first buffoon.


Oh and if weed is truly a medicine, it is immoral for California to tax it. Unless the whole thing is a sham.
 
I find most people I come across that smoke weed daily, are usually about weed. As if it is there life. They weed before things like career, family, safety of there children, there own personal saftety, or anything of the like.
And how is this different from alcoholics?

It no longer becomes about what ever activity they are doing, but more about how they can get high while doing whatever thing it is they are doing.

You are in favor of banning a substance because some people are irresponsible?

I have no respect for buffoons like this. Sure there are people who use marijuana responsibly, but just like the alcoholic, the chronic weed smoker is not the type of person I would hire, trust, or consider a value to society.
But you would hire the "chronic alcoholic"?

The idiocy, that making weed available could be the sole savior of the California economy is stupid. Nothing but the rantings of a weed first buffoon.
There is going to be no "sole savior" that is ridiculous, but to ignore the benefits is to be ignorant. It costs much more money to throw a dealer in jail.
Oh and if weed is truly a medicine, it is immoral for California to tax it. Unless the whole thing is a sham.

Medicine's are not taxed?
This is no longer an issue of morality, it is an issue of the Government telling people what unharmful substance they cannot use.
 
And how is this different from alcoholics?

There is no difference between a drunk who drinks everyday and some loser who smokes weed everyday as a life crutch.

You are in favor of banning a substance because some people are irresponsible?


Nope. I am for the legalization.


But you would hire the "chronic alcoholic"?

Absolutley not.


There is going to be no "sole savior" that is ridiculous, but to ignore the benefits is to be ignorant. It costs much more money to throw a dealer in jail.

Read the op. I am laughing at the notion that weed will save the california economy.


Medicine's are not taxed?

Not in California.

"Also excluded are food animals (livestock), food plants and seeds, fertilizer used to grow food, prescription drugs and certain medical supplies"

Sales taxes in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is no longer an issue of morality, it is an issue of the Government telling people what unharmful substance they cannot use.


Since perscriptions are not taxed in california, how will weed help the calif economy at all. This thread is fail
 
when I smoke with my friends after work I go home at 11:30, 12:30 at the latest and get plenty of sleep and wake up feeling fine.

when I drink with my friends after work I stay out until 2, get in fights and wake up with a jackhammer in my head and a need to vomit.

pot making you less able just isn't going to fly.

I like beer a lot, and I consume vastly more of it then weed, but weed is clearly the less dangerous drug.
 
I find most people I come across that smoke weed daily, are usually about weed. As if it is there life. They weed before things like career, family, safety of there children, there own personal saftety, or anything of the like.

It no longer becomes about what ever activity they are doing, but more about how they can get high while doing whatever thing it is they are doing.

I find people like this limited in life and I pity them.


I have no respect for buffoons like this. Sure there are people who use marijuana responsibly, but just like the alcoholic, the chronic weed smoker is not the type of person I would hire, trust, or consider a value to society.



The idiocy, that making weed available could be the sole savior of the California economy is stupid. Nothing but the rantings of a weed first buffoon.


Oh and if weed is truly a medicine, it is immoral for California to tax it. Unless the whole thing is a sham.

You obviously don't get out much then.

Weed is very similar in usage to alcohol. Many people drink only at social functions...as do some people who only smoke weed at a party where it is available.

Others have a drink a few times a week...as do many people who smoke weed.

Some people have a drink every night when they come home from work to wind down. Some people smoke a joint.

Some people are alcoholics and drink to excess. Some people do the same with MJ.

To assume that every person who smoke weed are "Spicollis" as in "Fast times at Ridgemont High" shows that you have little understanding of the world around you.
 
You obviously don't get out much then.

Weed is very similar in usage to alcohol. Many people drink only at social functions...as do some people who only smoke weed at a party where it is available.


Link to studies.

Others have a drink a few times a week...as do many people who smoke weed.

Link to studies.


Some people have a drink every night when they come home from work to wind down. Some people smoke a joint.


Some smoke weed like a chimney.


Some people are alcoholics and drink to excess. Some people do the same with MJ.

agreed


To assume that every person who smoke weed are "Spicollis" as in "Fast times at Ridgemont High" shows that you have little understanding of the world around you.



Please review and let me know where I made that argument.
 
You obviously don't get out much then.

Weed is very similar in usage to alcohol. Many people drink only at social functions...as do some people who only smoke weed at a party where it is available.

Others have a drink a few times a week...as do many people who smoke weed.

Some people have a drink every night when they come home from work to wind down. Some people smoke a joint.

Some people are alcoholics and drink to excess. Some people do the same with MJ.

To assume that every person who smoke weed are "Spicollis" as in "Fast times at Ridgemont High" shows that you have little understanding of the world around you.

I think weed is a lot safer. While high I've never gotten a fight, fallen off my bike, revealed any unpleasant truths, puked, pissed myself or stolen anything.

All of which happens more or less frequently when I get black out drunk.

When I get the equivalent of black out drunk with weed I literally can't move, posing no risk to myself or others.
 
See post #7




Where in post 7 did I make the claim:

"To assume that every person who smoke weed are "Spicollis" as in "Fast times at Ridgemont High" shows that you have little understanding of the world around you."


Please quote me. This is not my argument.
 
It's about time. There is a huge revenue potential for Marijuana, not only for the state in taxes but for businesses. By legalizing Marijuana we will be bringing new businesses to life and, while lessening the need for criminal dealers, bring out the entrepreneur in dealers to run a successful and legit business.

There is so much business potential for not only suppliers but for marketers. I can see expansive social networks and critique businesses similar to beer and wine.
 
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Where in post 7 did I make the claim:

"To assume that every person who smoke weed are "Spicollis" as in "Fast times at Ridgemont High" shows that you have little understanding of the world around you."


Please quote me. This is not my argument.

Taken straight from post #7

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
"people I come across that smoke weed daily, are usually about weed. As if it is there life. They weed before things like career, family, safety of there children, there own personal saftety, or anything of the like.

It no longer becomes about what ever activity they are doing, but more about how they can get high while doing whatever thing it is they are doing.

I find people like this limited in life and I pity them.


I have no respect for buffoons like this."

from post #2:

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Yeah by creating a state of unmotivated buffoons. That sure would help the california economy
 
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It's about time. There is a huge revenue potential for Marijuana, not only for the state in taxes but for businesses. By legalizing Marijuana we will be bringing new businesses to life and, while lessening the need for criminal dealers, bring out the entrepreneur in dealers to run a successful and legit business.

There is so much business potential for not only suppliers but for marketers. I can see expansive social networks and critique businesses similar to beer and wine.

oh god, weed snobs

never-mind, keep it illegal. the weed snobs we have right now are quite enough.
 
oh god, weed snobs

never-mind, keep it illegal. the weed snobs we have right now are quite enough.

I can just picture it.

"This is a 2004 sticky-icky from the southern region of Columbia. It gives an earthy flavor with hints of peppermint and vanilla."

:lol:
 
yes this late 2008 screaming purple bandit has a bit too much head for me, I prefer a more subtle flavor. However, the pull is consistent and finishes with a well bodied texture. An aftertaste reminiscent of nutty cheese.

Serve with dorritos and sponge bob.
 
yes this late 2008 screaming purple bandit has a bit too much head for me, I prefer a more subtle flavor. However, the pull is consistent and finishes with a well bodied texture. An aftertaste reminiscent of nutty cheese.

Serve with dorritos and sponge bob.

I can definitely see a market with food pairing, just like wine. Though, instead of bread with vinegar/olive oil and cheeses it will be captain crunch and funoins.
 
the tart textured melange of northeastern spider monkey green screamer helps bring out the flavor of the pile of fun size kit kats you stole from your little sisters halloween candy
 
Not in California.

"Also excluded are food animals (livestock), food plants and seeds, fertilizer used to grow food, prescription drugs and certain medical supplies"

Sales taxes in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Since perscriptions are not taxed in california, how will weed help the calif economy at all. This thread is fail

First off, California already collects taxes on medical marijuana.

The board ultimately decided that medical marijuana was not exempt from sales taxes because it was not dispensed by a pharmacist or approved by the Food and Drug Administration as a medication.

CA Imposes State Tax On Medical Marijuana Dealers - cbs5.com

Secondly this thread is about legislation to allow distribution and selling of NON-MEDICAL Marijuana. A legalized venue of distribution with a $50/OZ tax to be levied upon the growers, and additional sales tax at the point of distribution is estimated at generating over a $1 Billion in revenue.

from the article in the OP:

The state's tax collectors estimate the bill would bring in about $1.3 billion in much-needed revenue a year, offsetting some of the billions in service cuts and spending reductions outlined in the recently approved state budget.


Reverend_Hellh0und said:
This thread is fail

The fail is not the thread. nor the article it is based on.


and on the subject of California's proposed legalization Congresswoman Sanchez weighed in on it saying "maybe it would be a good pilot program":

YouTube - Maybe Marijuana Should Be Legalized & Regulated" Congresswoman Sanchez

The first half of the clip is talking about Mexican cartel violence, from about 2:40 on it is on the subject of legalization.
 
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