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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So you want to turn little children into potheads?
    Little children already are potheads. Why? because it is so readily available. There is ZERO control over the distribution of pot, and with a black market distribution it is readily available to any child who so desires to get it.

    When I was in school it was effortless to attain pot, and for that matter LSD, cocaine, and with a bit of asking around just about any substance you cared to partake of - with the exception of 2, alcohol, and to a lesser extent tobacco. These actually took a bit of effort to attain, and especially for alcohol it more often than not came up empty handed. All good, pot was always a phone call away on the weekend, or if it was a weekday I could just pick it up at school. That has not changed one bit. As long as unscrupulous individuals control the distribution there is absolutely ZERO control over whether or not our children can get their hands on it.

    Legalizing pot would make it MUCH more difficult for a child to attain.
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    1. legalize marijuana
    2. smoke it a lot everyday
    3. get stupid, lazy
    I don't follow. Are you suggesting that drug laws stop people from becoming drug-addicts?

    Look, granted my statment was hyperbole, however the point stands, this is not a way out of the recession for California.
    So long as you can admit that said statement was indeed hyperbole I won't take any issue with your latter presumption e.g., that legalization will not solve California's economic woes. I certainly feel it would be financially beneficial but I concur that it is no panacea.

    And those who smoke weed to excess are no better than an alcholic. there lives revolve around a substance, often becoming the main focus of whatever activity they are doing.
    I agree. Drug addiction is harmful but I fail to see how this is pertinent. Nobody is condoning or encouraging drug addiction as far as I know.

    How many really well off people smoke this much weed?
    I couldn't say, but it's not really my concern.

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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So you want to turn little children into potheads?
    Are you fine with turning little children into alcoholics?

    People are going to smoke weed after you ban it and after it is unbanned, the best you can do is teach your children about the problems and hope for the best.

    Marijuana as a child is always easier obtainable than alcohol.
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by thabigred View Post
    Are you fine with turning little children into alcoholics?

    People are going to smoke weed after you ban it and after it is unbanned, the best you can do is teach your children about the problems and hope for the best.

    Marijuana as a child is always easier obtainable than alcohol.
    You know, this series of posts did cause me to think back to my own high school years during the 70s. It occurs to me that very few kids (that I knew of) ever drank alcohol during school hours. On the other hand, quite a few smoked pot during school hours. Of course in those days, we had a smoking lounge on school grounds, so it was a bit easier for those smoking weed to fit in, perhaps.

    But all the same... I think there really is a difference between pot-smokers and alcohol drinkers... even at this young age. Kids would often go out partying and get roaring drunk on weekends. But not in school. Drugs are different. They're even sold in school. Still are. Big time in some areas.


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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Little children already are potheads. Why? because it is so readily available. There is ZERO control over the distribution of pot, and with a black market distribution it is readily available to any child who so desires to get it.

    When I was in school it was effortless to attain pot, and for that matter LSD, cocaine, and with a bit of asking around just about any substance you cared to partake of - with the exception of 2, alcohol, and to a lesser extent tobacco. These actually took a bit of effort to attain, and especially for alcohol it more often than not came up empty handed. All good, pot was always a phone call away on the weekend, or if it was a weekday I could just pick it up at school. That has not changed one bit. As long as unscrupulous individuals control the distribution there is absolutely ZERO control over whether or not our children can get their hands on it.

    Legalizing pot would make it MUCH more difficult for a child to attain.
    I could buy weed in middle school.

    The only thing I could never find was hash but every other drug I could of possibly wanted was readily available for my consumption if I wanted it.
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I could buy weed in middle school.

    The only thing I could never find was hash but every other drug I could of possibly wanted was readily available for my consumption if I wanted it.
    See my post above.

    Some often say there's little or no difference between pot-smoking and alcohol-drinking. I think your example here demonstrates how these activities are VERY different.


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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    See my post above.

    Some often say there's little or no difference between pot-smoking and alcohol-drinking. I think your example here demonstrates how these activities are VERY different.

    Alcohol is worse in my opinion. It has a higher addiction rate than weed I think.

    I live in a **** dirt town at the moment and all the teens here go sit in parking lots and get drunk.

    It is obvious prohibition has never worked but try telling the resident christian coalition that lives here.
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Alcohol infinitely cost the state more also, you guys are forgetting.

    How much domestic violence can be directly attributed to Marijuana(*crickets*)...but on the other hand how much domestic violence can be contributed to alcohol?

    Almost all domestic violence had alcohol apart of the equation.

    All those calls for police officers, court dates, jail time and so on possibly could exceed millions.

    Should we ban Alcohol?

    Of course not, but we should be teaching people better habits then just leaving people be with these substances. Which should be our exact same stance on marijuana.
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Alcohol is worse in my opinion. It has a higher addiction rate than weed I think.

    I live in a **** dirt town at the moment and all the teens here go sit in parking lots and get drunk.

    It is obvious prohibition has never worked but try telling the resident christian coalition that lives here.
    I've met plenty of alcoholics who were hopelessly lost causes. Beat their spouses, drive drunk, get into frequent fights, etc. I've never once, not in my entire life (with 14 years on the enforcement side) met somebody actually addicted to marijuana.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart
    I think the answer to this is fairly simple. If you believe the governance and management of the state of California over the past few decades should serve as a model for financial sanity, then by all means, legalize and tax marijuana.

    On the other hand, if you wonder why the state with the most natural resources, best ports for trade, best climate, best universities, and some of the most dynamic cities in the nation can't seem to pay its bills...

    ...then a hare-brained plan to tax marijuana might give you just a little moment of pause.
    What does California's past have to do with whether or not legalizing marijuana is a good idea or a "hair brained" idea.

    Please explain.
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    You know, this series of posts did cause me to think back to my own high school years during the 70s. It occurs to me that very few kids (that I knew of) ever drank alcohol during school hours. On the other hand, quite a few smoked pot during school hours. Of course in those days, we had a smoking lounge on school grounds, so it was a bit easier for those smoking weed to fit in, perhaps.

    But all the same... I think there really is a difference between pot-smokers and alcohol drinkers... even at this young age. Kids would often go out partying and get roaring drunk on weekends. But not in school. Drugs are different. They're even sold in school. Still are. Big time in some areas.

    The difference is the kids know it is unrealistic to even attempt to conceal alcohol at school, what is the likelihood of being able to conceal a bottle of vodka in your underwear?? Never mind how hard it is to conceal the effects and smell of alcohol on your breath. Even the most stupid of kids realize that having alcohol or being buzzed by it at school was just begging to get caught.

    Also alcohol is a social drug, even kids are aware being drunk at school is just not fun at all, it is for letting loose and tossing your inhibitions to the wind, something appropriate for a party, but not at all for school.

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