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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    ďWeed is illegal because itís bad and itís bad because itís illegal and we canít legalize it because then people would smoke it and you just want it legalized because you want to smoke it and that would be bad because weed is illegal because itís bad.Ē [undertone]Smoking weed is a moral failing, I feel obligated to punish you for it and damn you for trying to disempower me from doing just that.[/undertone]

    Why does anyone still bother ďdebatingĒ these people? Their views are based on emotions incapable of being expressed rationally, so their only contribution is to tacitly deride the opposition with feigned discourse.

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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post
    ďWeed is illegal because itís bad and itís bad because itís illegal and we canít legalize it because then people would smoke it and you just want it legalized because you want to smoke it and that would be bad because weed is illegal because itís bad.Ē [undertone]Smoking weed is a moral failing, I feel obligated to punish you for it and damn you for trying to disempower me from doing just that.[/undertone]

    Why does anyone still bother ďdebatingĒ these people? Their views are based on emotions incapable of being expressed rationally, so their only contribution is to tacitly deride the opposition with feigned discourse.



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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Forty-some-odd pages already. Think any progress has been made?

    Perhaps, the lack of progress has been caused by the unwillingness of anti-legalization proponents to state anything of relevance. I'm simply waiting for someone to provide a logical explanation as to why marijuana should remain illegal. References to Constitutional law would be most welcome, as would some statistical analyses of drug policy efficacy.
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post
    ďWeed is illegal because itís bad and itís bad because itís illegal and we canít legalize it because then people would smoke it and you just want it legalized because you want to smoke it and that would be bad because weed is illegal because itís bad.Ē [undertone]Smoking weed is a moral failing, I feel obligated to punish you for it and damn you for trying to disempower me from doing just that.[/undertone]

    Why does anyone still bother ďdebatingĒ these people? Their views are based on emotions incapable of being expressed rationally, so their only contribution is to tacitly deride the opposition with feigned discourse.
    Take it to the courts? the SCOTUS will just tell you that the govt has a right to restrict legal and illegal substances that it sees as dangerous, never mind the illogic of allowing other substances, like smokes and alchohol, to be sold to the public legally.
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Perhaps, the lack of progress has been caused by the unwillingness of anti-legalization proponents to state anything of relevance. I'm simply waiting for someone to provide a logical explanation as to why marijuana should remain illegal. References to Constitutional law would be most welcome, as would some statistical analyses of drug policy efficacy.
    The reason people who think Marijuana should remain illegal can't provide a logical reason is because marijuana was made illegal based on everything but logical reasons. How do you defend that when you start off wrong from the start? I mean Grateful Dead just established that marijuana wasn't made illegal because it was unhealthy or because it was somehow bad for the public. It was made illegal so some conservative could push up his career. Nobody who supports keeping marijuana illegal can logically reason why. They can only appeal to the popularity of it's demonization even though this popularity is due to public misinformation. All they can do is hope that if they compare it to crimes like murder then somehow it'll stick.
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Perhaps, the lack of progress has been caused by the unwillingness of anti-legalization proponents to state anything of relevance. I'm simply waiting for someone to provide a logical explanation as to why marijuana should remain illegal. References to Constitutional law would be most welcome, as would some statistical analyses of drug policy efficacy.
    Oh lord.

    Carry on.


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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Oh lord.

    Carry on.

    Are you going to debate the topic at hand or simply waste my time with quips and stupid smiley icons? Whenever you're ready to discuss the particulars of law and statistics be sure to let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Are you going to debate the topic at hand or simply waste my time with quips and stupid smiley icons? Whenever you're ready to discuss the particulars of law and statistics be sure to let me know.
    That's rather funny after you 'thanked' this very erudite post just a bit earlier...

    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post
    ďWeed is illegal because itís bad and itís bad because itís illegal and we canít legalize it because then people would smoke it and you just want it legalized because you want to smoke it and that would be bad because weed is illegal because itís bad.Ē [undertone]Smoking weed is a moral failing, I feel obligated to punish you for it and damn you for trying to disempower me from doing just that.[/undertone]

    Why does anyone still bother ďdebatingĒ these people? Their views are based on emotions incapable of being expressed rationally, so their only contribution is to tacitly deride the opposition with feigned discourse.

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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Ethereal, that would be a NO.


    Anyway, one thing I've always wondered is if it was necessary to pass a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol, why was one not required for grass?
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    Ethereal, that would be a NO.
    Ethereal played his hand in his first post here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I am getting absolutely tired of this argument and the blatantly erroneous premises upon which anti-legalization proponents base their position.

    There is no reason to argue against the legalization of marijuana...NONE. There is no legal reasoning, there is no logical reasoning, there is no philosophical reasoning, there is no moral reasoning. ANYONE who thinks otherwise, please inform me so that we can proceed to have a true debate on the topic, otherwise, keep your silly, emotionally-based arguments to yourself because I'm tired of hearing them.

    What I find most ironic, is some of the most vehement defenders of the Second Amendment resort to the EXACT same tactics as the anti-gun crowd with their idiotic and nonsensical demonizing of an inanimate object. How can you defend guns against a brazenly idiotic premise while utilizing the exact same premise against marijuana? How can one fail to see this!? The hypocrisy of some people is simply astonishing.
    You have to love posters who enter a debate by saying there's absolutely nothing to debate. Then complain that people aren't debating them.


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