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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that these marijuana debates often get very heated, both on message boards and in society at large, for a very simple reason. A reason that has little to do with logic or fact or figures or reason. And to illustrate my point, I'm going to take myself back to high school and college. 'Stoners' tended to segregate themselves. And by 'stoner' I'm referring to regular pot-smokers, not the casual user who takes a hit at a party every once in a while. Stoners weren't popular in my high school. They weren't popular in my dorm in college. They tended to go into their rooms, lock their doors, and spend hours and hours giggling, playing their 'stoner' music and doing whatever it is stoners do when they party. They were, in a real sense, outcasts.

    And I can't help but believe that this segregation of stoners or pot-heads or whatever you call them... and this view of them as outcasts or outsiders, fuels the debate much more than we know.

    Some may argue that if pot were to be legalized, this would change. But I'm not sure it would.


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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    When Marijuana was first criminalized, they said it made you go crazy.

    Then when murders were getting off because they smoked a little, they said it is bad for your health.

    When the government found out in the 70's it was good for your health, congress almost legalized it.

    It got so far in legalization that Cigarette companies started buying copyrights to names of popular marijuana like White Widow and Acapulco Gold.

    As you can figure out it was not legalized then and now politicians since then have been running around saying, "we need to think of the children".

    They are really thinking of the children by allowing black market to sell to kids with almost no barriers in place and allow kids to grow-up not knowing how to smoke the substance responsibly.

    It is much harder for children to obtain legal substances than illegal ones, it would be better off for the children for it to be legal than illegal.
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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    State revenues would be derived from a $50 per ounce levy on retail sales of marijuana and sales taxes. By adopting the law, California could become a model for other states. As Ammiano put it: "How California goes, the country goes."
    Sounds good to me, go for it.

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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by thabigred View Post
    When the government found out in the 70's it was good for your health, congress almost legalized it.
    I'm sorry, exactly how is it good for your health? Unless your a cancer victim and refuse to eat or surffer from another illness that weed is already certified for, then it is not beneficial to your health. Smoking anything is bad for you, it's common sense. Weed is especially harmful because people exhale deeper, longer, and hold it in their lungs to let it sit for a while before exhaling

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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Title of the thread is?
    your post is in the wrong thread.
    besides, he never said he would spend us out of debt. Spend us out of recession, maybe, but debt, who would say that?
    that is impossible, given the amount of debt the we hae accumulated thanks to Reagan, and Bush, and Bush.....
    Taxing weed might be a good idea, though. I suggest all taxes gathered from tobacco, alcohol, and weed be used to pay off the debt we owe the chinese...
    Apparently your illiteracy is toped only by your political ignorance.

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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that these marijuana debates often get very heated, both on message boards and in society at large, for a very simple reason. A reason that has little to do with logic or fact or figures or reason. And to illustrate my point, I'm going to take myself back to high school and college. 'Stoners' tended to segregate themselves. And by 'stoner' I'm referring to regular pot-smokers, not the casual user who takes a hit at a party every once in a while. Stoners weren't popular in my high school. They weren't popular in my dorm in college. They tended to go into their rooms, lock their doors, and spend hours and hours giggling, playing their 'stoner' music and doing whatever it is stoners do when they party. They were, in a real sense, outcasts.

    And I can't help but believe that this segregation of stoners or pot-heads or whatever you call them... and this view of them as outcasts or outsiders, fuels the debate much more than we know.

    Some may argue that if pot were to be legalized, this would change. But I'm not sure it would.

    versus the cool frat guys that drank beer and date raped
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Yeah by creating a state of unmotivated buffoons. That sure would help the California economy.
    Absolutely....
    Marijuana must be prohibited, the same as alcohol was successfully prohibited in 1920.
    Prohibition forever..
    Alcohol and marijuana must be kept in the hands of the criminals, otherwise, all the Eliot Nesses will be unemployed..

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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    versus the cool frat guys that {sic} drank beer and date raped
    Exactly.


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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that these marijuana debates often get very heated, both on message boards and in society at large, for a very simple reason. A reason that has little to do with logic or fact or figures or reason. And to illustrate my point, I'm going to take myself back to high school and college. 'Stoners' tended to segregate themselves. And by 'stoner' I'm referring to regular pot-smokers, not the casual user who takes a hit at a party every once in a while. Stoners weren't popular in my high school. They weren't popular in my dorm in college. They tended to go into their rooms, lock their doors, and spend hours and hours giggling, playing their 'stoner' music and doing whatever it is stoners do when they party. They were, in a real sense, outcasts.

    And I can't help but believe that this segregation of stoners or pot-heads or whatever you call them... and this view of them as outcasts or outsiders, fuels the debate much more than we know.

    Some may argue that if pot were to be legalized, this would change. But I'm not sure it would.

    When I was in high school we were called "freaks" and we hung out on freak street. We are having a reunion on April 1st, LOL. Amazingly enough most of us "freaks" now have advanced degrees from prestigious Universities while the jocks and popular kids live in their glory days like Al and Peg Bundy.

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    Re: Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    When I was in high school we were called "freaks" and we hung out on freak street. We are having a reunion on April 1st, LOL. Amazingly enough most of us "freaks" now have advanced degrees from prestigious Universities while the jocks and popular kids live in their glory days like Al and Peg Bundy.
    I just attended yet another HS reunion last fall. I couldn't disagree more.

    But in any event, the level of emotion thinly veiled in posts like this very powerfully illustrates my original point, wouldn't you agree?


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