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    Re: Alaska Gov. Palin's Daughter, Fiance Break Up

    There's nothing wrong with not having a degree, however it's something that there's no reason to not strive to attain. America's college education rates are appalling, we're going to be a third world country in a few decades if we keep going in the direction we've been going in.

    The era of a middle class lifestyle being readily attainable without college has basically ended.

    There are a few industries left in this country that focus on vocational training but they've been dwindling ever since WWII.

    Would I like industry to return to this country? Would I like sustainable blue collar jobs that provide a decent standard of living to be accessible for everyone? Of course! Everyday I go to work I walk through the burnt out remains of American industry and see the poor few that haven't been able to make the transition. I know the pain of deindustrialization intimately- and that's exactly why I think it's so critical that our young people be pushed to get the best education they can get. Because their chance today of becoming a welder or a die cutter are smaller then they've ever been- particularly if they live in the inner city.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Alaska Gov. Palin's Daughter, Fiance Break Up

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    There's nothing wrong with not having a degree, however it's something that there's no reason to not strive to attain. America's college education rates are appalling, we're going to be a third world country in a few decades if we keep going in the direction we've been going in.
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    Re: Alaska Gov. Palin's Daughter, Fiance Break Up

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    I'm not advocating a ban on young marriages,
    Right, you'd be advocating that people having a kid with a black guy don't really care about the well being of their kids, are being irresponsible for having a kid, and should always have an abortion anytime they're pregnant.

    But a ban?! Heavens no, that'd just be over the top.

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    Re: Alaska Gov. Palin's Daughter, Fiance Break Up

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The fact that it would be better for most people in most situations does not mean it would be better for all people in all situations. There are plenty of people for whom getting a college education would do absolutely nothing to improve their situation.
    Ok and we're all a special and unique snow flakes- which is why I'm not advocating that we institute a Federal Bureau of Making You Wait to Start a Family- I am, however, requiring that people actually admit that it would be better the majority of the time.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Alaska Gov. Palin's Daughter, Fiance Break Up

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    There's nothing wrong with not having a degree, however it's something that there's no reason to not strive to attain. America's college education rates are appalling, we're going to be a third world country in a few decades if we keep going in the direction we've been going in.

    The era of a middle class lifestyle being readily attainable without college has basically ended.

    There are a few industries left in this country that focus on vocational training but they've been dwindling ever since WWII.

    Would I like industry to return to this country? Would I like sustainable blue collar jobs that provide a decent standard of living to be accessible for everyone? Of course!
    Well if we become a third world country, then those jobs might come back.
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    Re: Alaska Gov. Palin's Daughter, Fiance Break Up

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    There's nothing wrong with not having a degree, however it's something that there's no reason to not strive to attain. America's college education rates are appalling, we're going to be a third world country in a few decades if we keep going in the direction we've been going in.

    The era of a middle class lifestyle being readily attainable without college has basically ended.

    There are a few industries left in this country that focus on vocational training but they've been dwindling ever since WWII.

    Would I like industry to return to this country? Would I like sustainable blue collar jobs that provide a decent standard of living to be accessible for everyone? Of course! Everyday I go to work I walk through the burnt out remains of American industry and see the poor few that haven't been able to make the transition. I know the pain of deindustrialization intimately- and that's exactly why I think it's so critical that our young people be pushed to get the best education they can get. Because their chance today of becoming a welder or a die cutter are smaller then they've ever been- particularly if they live in the inner city.
    I agree wtih your premise but what I'm saying is in most cases women don't have the luxury of waiting till their 30 or they don't feel comfortable doing so because they know biologically speaking they peak at 24 for baby making. Women also have trouble staying the course when it comes to the whole college and career establishing road for the very same reason. IVF treatments while highly successful and commonly used today are not inexpensive. They are very costly even for most dual working couples. The further past 30 you are the less chance of success you have with each IVF treatment. So yeah, you hear about some hollywood actress getting IVF and successfully having her first baby at 40 but since it might have taken 12 IVF treatments to get her there this isn't possible for everyone. Woman have a ticking clock that men simply don't have. If women wait to finish school, establish their career, etc they may wait too long and never be a mother.

    Men on the other hand can wait till their mid 30's and then go find a nice 20 something year old to have kids with.

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    Re: Alaska Gov. Palin's Daughter, Fiance Break Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Right, you'd be advocating that people having a kid with a black guy don't really care about the well being of their kids, are being irresponsible for having a kid, and should always have an abortion anytime they're pregnant.

    But a ban?! Heavens no, that'd just be over the top.
    You're conflating two unrelated phenomenon and I reject your analogy.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Alaska Gov. Palin's Daughter, Fiance Break Up

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    Ok and we're all a special and unique snow flakes- which is why I'm not advocating that we institute a Federal Bureau of Making You Wait to Start a Family- I am, however, requiring that people actually admit that it would be better the majority of the time.
    I'll agree that men should wait. Finish school, establish career.

    As for women, god bless 'em, any which way they figure it out is fine by me because we got the short end of the stick. If every single women out there decided to finish college and spend a few years establishing her career before having her first kid we'd go extinct or damn near close to it as most couples even with degrees wouldn't be able to pay for all the fertility treatment that would be needed to correct the mess.

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    Re: Alaska Gov. Palin's Daughter, Fiance Break Up

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Since I am a temporary stay at home dad, until I start college this summer, I sympathize with stay at home moms across the country, and can basically state from experience(which you probably lack) that your post is full of it. For one, moms 50 years ago didn't "tend to the land" on the farm. Thats what the dad and the kids that were old enough did(while the kids weren't in school). I've known generational farmers, and I've never met one where the woman ran the farm and raised the kids.

    I cannot make any defense for the absurd crap that is on daytime TV though.
    I am not full of it, I have done it. I have spent time at home with my kids for weeks at a time and its a hell of a lot easier than working full time and raising kids.

    I am not talking about people that had a big farm back in the day. I am talking about people that lived out in the country and had a few acres to tend to. Back when you washed clothes by hand and things like that, it almost required someone to stay at home.

    Its one thing if a mom has 5 or more kids at home to take care of. Thats work. Its another to take care of 1 to 3 kids and call it a full time job.

    If you look at the site linked to my profile, you will see that my wife and I have plenty of experience as parents.
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    Re: Alaska Gov. Palin's Daughter, Fiance Break Up

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Why is this news?
    Well, she was raised by the queen of family values, or so republicans wanted us to think a few months ago....Bristol needs practice those values. Why would Sarah want to hold an entire nation to her way of thinking, but not her how daughter? I don't think having a child is a bad thing, but I think a family not practicing what they preach is.

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