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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Richard Speck

    ...he terrorized the young women, including Gloria Davy, Patricia Matusek, Nina Schmale, Pamela Wilkening, Suzanne Farris, Mary Ann Jordan, Merlita Gargullo, and Valentina Pasion. Speck, who later claimed he was high on both alcohol and drugs, may have originally planned to commit a routine burglary. Speck held the women in the house for hours, methodically leading them out of the room one by one, stabbing or strangling them to death, then finally raping and strangling his last victim, Gloria Davy.
    But i thought guns were legalised? o.O

    "Richard Franklin Speck (December 6, 1941–December 5, 1991) was a mass murderer who systematically killed eight student nurses from South Chicago Community Hospital in Chicago, Illinois on July 14, 1966"

    *sigh*

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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

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    Each country is different.
    I wonder how many people die of a gun related incident inside US, it might be very high.
    Statistically, the percentages of Canada, the U.K., and America are very close, when you compare victim crime and take out suicides and justifyable homicides.



    Ofc some want them, i didn't mean to make it sound like a blanket statement.
    The general consensus is against weapons - The only party [Conservative] who are all about individuality; would not dare legalising.
    How do you change a perception of guns inside a society that hasn't even held a gun let alone use it?
    Good question. I find the best way is to educate people about what guns, how they work, and how to safely own/handle/use them, also in that is taking someone out shooting, all of those things take the "demon" aspect out of the gun.



    I take your point, i just would not feel comfortable with the legalisation of such dangerous weapons.
    Fair enough. I would advocate that you do some independent research on the subject just for kicks, I would speculate that you would become not so much an advocate for firearms, but would distrust the people responsible for stories like this more than the weaponry.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The guns are not as threatening as the people with the weapons - Strict gun control is where it is at.


    Is where what is at? Tyranny? jack booted government thuggery?


    Governments killed over 100 billion last century, are you sure it is my gun you should be worried about?
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Is where what is at? Tyranny? jack booted government thuggery?

    Governments killed over 100 billion last century, are you sure it is my gun you should be worried about?
    Hey, you may want mental and criminals being able to get guns legally but i do not want that.

    Yeah because i heard the Govt. had it in for us ...

    This whole idea of a tiny little metal would prevent tyranny is ridiculous - but i understand where it first came from - I would have wanted weapons if i fought the British for independence. But 200 years on, you don't think you are being the slightest bit paranoid?

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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    But i thought guns were legalised? o.O

    "Richard Franklin Speck (December 6, 1941–December 5, 1991) was a mass murderer who systematically killed eight student nurses from South Chicago Community Hospital in Chicago, Illinois on July 14, 1966"

    *sigh*
    The point being made, you said 1 male, the scenario was ridiculous. It's not ridiculous, it occurs more frequently than we as a civilized nation would like.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

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    Then i die and get raped.
    That scenario is .... rare to say the least
    True, this is a very rare scenario, which means little if you are on the bad side of the statistic. I have a friend here who fortunately wasn't hurt, but was visiting family in the Honduras and their family was held hostage by armed robbers posing as police, they were fleeing authorities and needed a hideout, they took family possessions and fortunately were happy with just property, but no one of the fifteen were willing to step up on defense because of two factors, that of injury or getting a family member injured. While these things are statistically rare it isn't much comfort if it happens to you.



    As do i hence why i do boxing and i learn wing chun - A form of martial arts.
    Wing Chun, excellent form of martial arts, Boxing is terriffic as well.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Good question. I find the best way is to educate people about what guns, how they work, and how to safely own/handle/use them, also in that is taking someone out shooting, all of those things take the "demon" aspect out of the gun.
    How can you teach teens to respect the weapon they are holding in their hands? It's beyond difficult. It would be difficult to make it accepted in society.

    Fair enough. I would advocate that you do some independent research on the subject just for kicks, I would speculate that you would become not so much an advocate for firearms, but would distrust the people responsible for stories like this more than the weaponry.
    BBC News | UK | Handgun crime 'up' despite ban
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle2409817.ece
    British attitudes are supercilious and misguided

    Despite the recent spate of shootings on our streets, we pride ourselves on our strict gun laws. Every time an American gunman goes on a killing spree, we shake our heads in righteous disbelief at our poor benighted colonial cousins. Why is it, even after the Virginia Tech massacre, that Americans still resist calls for more gun controls?

    Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
    Ouch, that just took out the main bulk of my arguement lol

    Wayy ahead of you, i'm going down a range in a few weeks time to see it for myself. My brother is taking me =]

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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    The point being made, you said 1 male, the scenario was ridiculous. It's not ridiculous, it occurs more frequently than we as a civilized nation would like.
    I also said it was rare.

    You don't see this happening everyday do you?

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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Hey, you may want mental and criminals being able to get guns legally but i do not want that.
    Nice strawman, you build that yourself?


    Yeah because i heard the Govt. had it in for us ...

    This whole idea of a tiny little metal would prevent tyranny is ridiculous - but i understand where it first came from - I would have wanted weapons if i fought the British for independence. But 200 years on, you don't think you are being the slightest bit paranoid?

    oh I don't know, what is your concern again in Dafur? Imagine if the oppressed were armed.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    oh I don't know, what is your concern again in Dafur? Imagine if the oppressed were armed.
    Are you bringing in a genocide?

    It wouldn't make a difference, the opressors is backed by a superpower.

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