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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Would you say guns are used on the same frequency as people driving a car?
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    According to the earlier stats the death rates of guns vs cars is pretty close. I would argue the usage rates vs death rates are much higher with guns as tens of millions of people every day drive their car. I would also argue that the intent to kill with guns vs cars is higher with guns.


    there are? what evidence do you have to support this.

    there are 192 million guns owned in the united states.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

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    By the same token then, a car death is a car death. no?
    Yes, it is.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Gotcha, I thought you were attributing success to method rather than the statistic.
    Yup.

    I don't think the gun will be any more successful in the hands of an incompetant shooter barring a lucky shot, I've known people who are worthless with a gun, but if you gave them anything else they could really ruin someone's health record.
    Pulling the trigger of a gun pointed directly in ones own mouth doesn't take a lot of knowledge.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    How many guns die each year?
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post

    Pulling the trigger of a gun pointed directly in ones own mouth doesn't take a lot of knowledge.
    This is true, but what I'm arguing is that if someone wants to take their own life they will do it regardless the method, which is why we need better public awareness of suicide and it's symptoms, gun control will not solve the problem of criminal activity or self-inflicted harm.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    This is true, but what I'm arguing is that if someone wants to take their own life they will do it regardless the method, which is why we need better public awareness of suicide and it's symptoms, gun control will not solve the problem of criminal activity or self-inflicted harm.
    1) I agree that we need better public awareness of suicide and it's symptoms
    2) Gun control will not solve the problem of criminal activity or, especially self-inflicted harm.
    3) If someone wants to take their own life, they will be more successful if they use a gun. Stats show this. Lethality of guns demonstrate this. It is far easier to revive someone from an overdose, than from a several inch hole in their brain.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Gun laws are a deterrent. They can't stop gun crime but they can lessen it by making guns not openly available to people who aren't criminal minded enough to seek out weapons on the black market.
    For those people humans make knives.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    3) If someone wants to take their own life, they will be more successful if they use a gun. Stats show this. Lethality of guns demonstrate this. It is far easier to revive someone from an overdose, than from a several inch hole in their brain.
    Possibly, depending on all of the relevant medical factors. For instance, hanging, unless you get there in time to get the person off the rope and immediately do CPR that person is lost, same with an overdose, there is a point of no return from my understanding, slit wrists, same thing, no matter how much you stop the bleeding it doesn't matter after a certain volume. This brings up another point, you save someone hell-bent on dying once, how do you guarantee that they don't either try another method or a more opportune time than the previous attempt.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    For those people humans make knives.
    Ask OJ.
    The Rwandans.
    It's much easier to close your eyes and pull a trigger then it is to hold someone down and stab them over and over until they die.
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    Re: Gunman shot by police after massacre in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    It's much easier to close your eyes and pull a trigger then it is to hold someone down and stab them over and over until they die.
    That is speculation at best and can only be without info. What are the factors? Is it a bigger human being like a 220lb man trying to stab a 95lb. woman to death? Or is it someone skilled in martial tactics? etc.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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