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    Re: Disgusting behavior of British muslims to troops returning from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    Lets read between the lines of what your saying here your pretty much saying "democracy is ok for us but those stupid Arabs like having no say in the governments".

    People use to make similar arguements about slavery "us white people like freedom it doesent mean black people do"

    The same crap has been brought up about democracy people use to say democracy couldnt work in non-white countries.

    They said it couldnt work in Japan, India, south america,africa.

    As you may have noticed Iraqis do seem to have a taste for democracy hense them risking their lives to go vote.
    It's not our job to determine when and how a nation will embrace democracy. It's their job. We can certainly support them, but direct, large scale military intervention is almost never a good idea. The people of the nation must work for it in order for it to take hold and last.

    And in a theologically influenced region such as the middle east, what we see as democracy might be a somewhat uncomfortable fit for many Muslims. It's their choice. They may only embrace certain tenets. We have no business accelerating the process for them unless a specific nation poses a direct threat to us.
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    Re: Disgusting behavior of British muslims to troops returning from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    That's been a cornerstone of our foreign policy for decades. Democracies are peaceful and aren't likely to cause world havok. So let's help out countries trying to become democracies. We don't even seem to care anymore if they are capitalist. Just as long as they are democratic.
    So explain what you mean by helping them out.
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    Re: Disgusting behavior of British muslims to troops returning from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I am not the biggest fan of Saudi Arabia but US has no right demanding they take responsibility for 13 crazy people on a plane knocking down a building
    Actually, since Saudi money funded then training of those 13 individuals the US has every right to hold Saudi Arabia responsible.

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    Re: Disgusting behavior of British muslims to troops returning from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Actually, since Saudi money funded then training of those 13 individuals the US has every right to hold Saudi Arabia responsible.
    Here's the problem with that logic though. If some crazy ex-U.S. military personnel do something without the government's knowledge, should the U.S. government be held accountable for their actions if they do something?

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    Re: Disgusting behavior of British muslims to troops returning from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Actually, since Saudi money funded then training of those 13 individuals the US has every right to hold Saudi Arabia responsible.
    So if American money is used to fund terrorism, it's America's fault? That's horrendous logic.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: Disgusting behavior of British muslims to troops returning from Iraq

    British Muslims condemn protests against Royal Anglian -Times Online

    Muslims in Britain have condemned the protests by extremists against the Royal Anglian that marred their parade in Luton after their return from Iraq.

    Some evangelical clergy also called for renewed efforts to convert Muslims in Britain to Christianity as a means of stemming future extremism.

    The Muslim Council of Britain said they were "appalled". Secretary General Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari said: "Whilst we understand the deeply held and widespread opposition to the disastrous war in Iraq, the Muslim Council of Britain condemns any form of protest where individuals are harmed or threatened.

    "The 'protestors' did not speak for the majority of people who opposed that war. British soldiers are simply carrying out orders on behalf of the government of the day. They have endured and sacrificed much, and we are glad they are back home."

    British Muslims for Secular Democracy voiced similar concerns and said they were "deeply shocked". Dr Shaaz Mahboob said: "A large section of the British public, a majority of who are non-Muslim, is against the war in Iraq and continue to express their opposition to this aspect of the Blair government’s foreign policy

    "However, instead of registering their protest with the government who are overall responsible for sending these troops to war, the Muslim protestors’ decision to direct their anger towards the soldiers, branding them terrorists and butchers, further illustrates the blind hatred held by extremist Muslims against British institutions which the British public is proud of."

    Evangelical minister Dr Alan Clifford of Norwich Reformed Church sent a letter to the police today calling for action against the protestor and urging Christians to try harder to convert Muslims. "The case for the pure, life-transforming faith of biblical Christianity must be courageously made," he said.


    Well said!

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    Re: Disgusting behavior of British muslims to troops returning from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    So explain what you mean by helping them out.
    Something like 98% of the countries in this world now describe themselves as democratic. Obviously it is the consensus that this is best. Obviously it was a fight to get this far.

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    Re: Disgusting behavior of British muslims to troops returning from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Something like 98% of the countries in this world now describe themselves as democratic. Obviously it is the consensus that this is best. Obviously it was a fight to get this far.
    That didn't answer my question. How would you propose helping them out?
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    Re: Disgusting behavior of British muslims to troops returning from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Something like 98% of the countries in this world now describe themselves as democratic. Obviously it is the consensus that this is best. Obviously it was a fight to get this far.
    Islam hates freedom and the democratic process .. what do you expect?

    The UK let in all those 7th century throwbacks ... now they are paying the price.

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    Re: Disgusting behavior of British muslims to troops returning from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    That didn't answer my question. How would you propose helping them out?
    Help them slit the throat of their ruthless dictators. These are scary times and nothing is more important than seeing to it that a madman doesn't get hold of nuclear weapon that could kill millions in an afternoon.

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