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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    People are finally waking up to the fact that most religions are simply man-made, ego-tripping crutches to make folks feel better about being 6 Foot Under.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    People are finally waking up to the fact that most religions are simply man-made, ego-tripping crutches to make folks feel better about being 6 Foot Under.
    I guess this conversation was becoming too constructive.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    Yeah but the cool countries such as Spain, Italy, and Greece have a lot of people believe in God. It's the metro northern euro types that have become high minded and weak and think its cool to forget God. The poor around the world, the people with heart, haven't forgotten God. Oh, and the trend is just the opposite for the LDS. The more highly educated a member, the far more likely of higher degree of belief, activeness, etc.
    so it's indicative to you that religion is correct because it's primarily practiced by people squatting in huts without electricity?

    god forbid we abandon the "successful" Calcutta model instead of tried and failed Copenhagen model.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

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    Really? Do you have any per capita data to support this hypothesis?

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    "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." ~ Isaac Asimov

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    May be my fellow atheists can show their faces in public now.
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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    Yeah but the cool countries such as Spain, Italy, and Greece have a lot of people believe in God. It's the metro northern euro types that have become high minded and weak and think its cool to forget God. The poor around the world, the people with heart, haven't forgotten God. Oh, and the trend is just the opposite for the LDS. The more highly educated a member, the far more likely of higher degree of belief, activeness, etc.
    I'll admit it. I shed a tear. The poor people around the world. In other words the group that is made up in overwhelming number by what we in Western society consider : the uneducated, the uncivilized, the miserable. Are the people who have faith in God. Is that an argument as to why we should believe in God? Because the majority of this planet which is made up of unfortunate sops who've never seen anything but suffering believe in God? Pretty strong. I mean if I'd never eaten anything other then dried corn and rice I'd probably believe in God to. Why not? I'd have nothing else to hope for other then a happy ending when my suffering is over. On the other hand if I had been born in say Sweden and had enjoyed at the very least a balanced diet with the essentials. Then I wouldn't have as much a need to focus on what is at the proverbial end of the road. It sounds to me like you just made an argument for how the human spirit always seems to able to imagine a reward after hardship.
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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Oh dear! We must be an exception to the rule. In our little interdenominational church of 49 members, we gained two new members last Sunday.
    We don't have "rules" and silly manmade stuff. We just believe in God, Jesus, and try to help our neighbors as best we can. It's a peaceful place of love and support and trying to do what's right in a world where sometimes it seems it's all gone wrong.
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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    You're entitled to your opinion. I am enlightening you as to mine.
    I fully realize that we are both expressing personal opinion here.

    If that person really was God, then who would be in the right? Importantly, none of the prophets ever claimed to be God although their followers (particularly Christians) sometimes retroactively ascribe that attribute to them. Even amongst Christians, the nature of Jesus's relationship with God is the subject of much debate.
    I realize that. I'm just talking about how these types of people are perceived by the rest of the world.

    If people observed miracles in real time, then they would accept it just as faithfully as a book. I suppose the belief in scripture can be traced back to trust. We trust our parents, who trusted their parents, who trusted their parents (etc.) all the way back to those who either experienced it or were very good liars.
    Well, that's really kind of weak, don't you think? Perhaps that's one of the reasons why fewer people are religious in this country.

    I too think we should should question the nature of reality, however this is contrary to atheism. No matter how solid one's belief is, one must accept that he does not really know for certain.
    I agree and as I said before, there are plenty of Atheists who are just as fundamentalist and pushy as some Christians can be.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    That actually makes a lot of sense. I think that humans are rebellious by nature. When you put a set of strict rules down it makes these things far more taboo to people and therefore more desirable in many ways.

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