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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's the way the article read to me.
    The study addressed self-identification, not church attendance

    The percentage. of people who call themselves in some way Christian has dropped more than 11% in a generation

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    So many Americans claim no religion at all (15%, up from 8% in 1990), that this category now outranks every other major U.S. religious group except Catholics and Baptists.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    The study addressed self-identification, not church attendance
    I'd like to see the actual questions asked to make that determination for myself.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    What was my premise, oh wise one? :
    LOL, you don't even know that you had one?!

    that the result of this poll has something to do with existence of God. that your version of God can be puffed away by logic.
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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Just because they don't identify with a religion does not mean they don't identify with the text.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK View Post
    You'll find that the more educated a nation is the less religious it becomes. The USA is an anomoly though. Maybe it is the poor state of your public schools and only a fraction of the population gets to go to your great standard of Universities.

    But it is great to see non-religious people are growing in the US. Gives me hope for the future.
    How does a decline of religious belief and morality benefit a society?

    Are you one of the few who believe it takes a village to raise a child?

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK View Post
    There is stats, I can't remember where on the net that shows that the more educated you are the less likely you are to be religious or at least hold weak religious views. There of course always exceptions.
    Well let's see this profound evidence! Defend your hypothesis.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    How does a decline of religious belief and morality benefit a society?

    Are you one of the few who believe it takes a village to raise a child?
    I personally think that similar (however perhaps not as restrictive) moral codes would exist without religion. I also think that society would be just fine without it. I realize, however, that some people need hope or an answer to the meaning of life and religion can provide them with that.

    I would have no problem with religion if people didn't try to force it on others or if people in positions of power wouldn't let it influence their decision making so much.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    How does a decline of religious belief and morality benefit a society?

    Are you one of the few who believe it takes a village to raise a child?
    Morality? Well Scandinavia which is pretty much the atheist place in Europe has lower abortion rates and teen pregnencies than the US, also lower Sexually Transmitted Infection rate than the US. I'm pretty sure there crime rates are lower than the US's as well.

    Yeah living in an atheist majority country is a horrible horrible life. Religious belief does not = morality.
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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I personally think that similar (however perhaps not as restrictive) moral codes would exist without religion. I also think that society would be just fine without it.
    It is because of religion that we have a moral code. Morality cannot exist without religious faith in my opinion.

    Man is capable of horrible acts upon his fellow man even with the threat of hell; can you imagine what man might be capable of if we have no faith there is a heaven or a God to judge us?

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I would have no problem with religion if people didn't try to force it on others or if people in positions of power wouldn't let it influence their decision making so much.
    So did some religious group come to your door and twist your arm to make you join them?

    I hear this specious argument all the time and to be honest, I have NEVER in my 54 years felt pressured to join any religion. There is only one place where that pressure seems to exist, and that is in the Middle East.

    So do tell what statistics support the notion that people of faith are trying to force their religion on you. On the other hand, I see a tiny minority of atheists trying to FORCE their views on a large majority who have faith; removal of crosses from public property, taking "In God We Trust" off our money etc etc etc.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I personally think that similar (however perhaps not as restrictive) moral codes would exist without religion. I also think that society would be just fine without it.
    There are certain moral codes that are rooted in tradition that are superfelous to the fundamental tenants of the religion. I will direct you to my signature. I believe you cannot maintain a society of human beings without observation of the ethic of reciprocity, a tenant found in every major religion. I believe the prophets are the bearers of sacred knowledge which reveals itself every single day.

    I realize, however, that some people need hope or an answer to the meaning of life and religion can provide them with that.
    No it cannot.

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