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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    My kingdom is not of this world.

    so gtfo with your statistics
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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This doesn't prove that there are less Christians, only that less of them go to church.
    A practicing Christian is someone that generally attends church at least semi-regularly.

    Otherwise, one could argue that the vast majority of western Europeans are Christian because they identify themselves as so despite the low church attendance there.

    Its been a trend for some time here in the America that the number of people that are "Religious" is declining while the number of people that are "Spiritual" is increasing.
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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This doesn't prove that there are less Christians, only that less of them go to church.
    Where do you get that?

    I missed the part in the article where it says "people are going to church less" rather then "less people are calling themselves [enter religion]".
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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Attacking me will not invalidate the integrity of the statistics presented. Your frustration and defensiveness concerning the matter is perhaps understandable but entirely misdirected.
    I am no more frustrated and defensive than I am surprised.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Lol, maybe in the future it'll mirror Europe.
    What? Overrun by muslims? Hope not.

    I can't even imagine the American Feminazi tolerating a burka, though the scenery would be much improved if we could get them to cover up.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I can't even imagine the American Feminazi tolerating a burka, though the scenery would be much improved if we could get them to cover up.


    Can we not have one thread where people do not go back into Islam or are people just incapable?

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds - USATODAY.com

    `Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.

    I'm a pretty religious guy that has stopped going to church because I'm frustrated with the direction churches these days are taking. for example, the music is terrible. this pop-praise music makes my soul feel like it's dying. another example: world missions. I don't understand why churches send a family to some other country when it primarily enriches the lives of that family. meanwhile the neighborhood around the church is falling apart. they should just send money to a pre-existing agency that helps impoverished nations.

    I realize this is just anecdotal, but I do know dozens of people like me. many of them are older and more traditional. they've stopped going to church as their churches have become less traditional. I like pipe organs and 100-year-old hymns. but good luck finding an active church with young families where these traditions are still fully intact. finding a balance with new and old is difficult. as a result people are leaving their churches, or not going.

    young people nowadays have access to information, like no previous generation ever has. their generation is unlike previous generations, whom accepted tradition until they broke free from it, or continued.

    I could see how a teen or a twenty-something could have spirituality be a large part of their own personal experience, as they read books about zen, tibetan buddhism, sufism, etc. but they could still answer "no religion" in response to this survey.

    `Oh dear,' says scourge, `I hadn't thought of that,' and his premise promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    `Oh dear,' says scourge, `I hadn't thought of that,' and his premise promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
    What was my premise, oh wise one? :
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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    GarzaUK posted(There is stats, I can't remember where on the net that shows that the more educated you are the less likely you are to be religious or at least hold weak religious views. There of course always exceptions.)

    Quote(There is stats,) This perhaps should have read 'There ARE stats', is denotes singular, whereas are denotes plural.

    With regards to religion IMO the various organized faiths have only themselves to blame for the reduction of adherents.
    Perhaps the poll question should have been 'Do you believe in God?'.
    Organized religion is a joke, it appears to exist for the purpose of extracting money from the faithful as well as providing means with which faith organizers can indulge in sexual practice with either the adherents or their children.

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    Re: Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Where do you get that?

    I missed the part in the article where it says "people are going to church less" rather then "less people are calling themselves [enter religion]".
    That's the way the article read to me.
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