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    Re: Iran test-fires new missile - media

    Iran's Fars News Agency said the domestically produced missile had a range of 110 km and was designed for use by military aircraft against naval targets.
    This means they have almost the same capability (in terms of reach) as our Harpoon missiles.


    The US navy is designed to protect itself from stuff like this.

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    Re: Iran test-fires new missile - media

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So what is Obama going to do about this?
    Obama will do nothing more than the feckless and useless UN; this time they REALLY, REALLY, REALLY mean it.

    Someday, I hope I am wrong; we may wake up to find out that Iran really did do what they said they would do and nuked Israeli cities. The headline will be something along the line of; "Iran claims that continued attacks on Hezbollah and Palestinians could no longer be tolerated so Iran declares war on the State of Israel."

    Then the hand wringing Liberals and Democrats will run about much like they did in the aftermath of 9-11 wondering how the Iranians could do such a thing and whatever where they thinking; after all our dialogue and attempts to sit down at the table and treat them as equals.

    But not to worry, we wonít be able to respond because the Democrats led by Obama will have gutted our military in an effort to pay the trillions in social welfare spending they passed. This will save American lives. We will let the IN deal with it in the same strong even handed way the UN deals with everything.

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    Re: Iran test-fires new missile - media

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Obama will do nothing more than the feckless and useless UN; this time they REALLY, REALLY, REALLY mean it.

    Someday, I hope I am wrong; we may wake up to find out that Iran really did do what they said they would do and nuked Israeli cities. The headline will be something along the line of; "Iran claims that continued attacks on Hezbollah and Palestinians could no longer be tolerated so Iran declares war on the State of Israel."

    Then the hand wringing Liberals and Democrats will run about much like they did in the aftermath of 9-11 wondering how the Iranians could do such a thing and whatever where they thinking; after all our dialogue and attempts to sit down at the table and treat them as equals.

    But not to worry, we wonít be able to respond because the Democrats led by Obama will have gutted our military in an effort to pay the trillions in social welfare spending they passed. This will save American lives. We will let the IN deal with it in the same strong even handed way the UN deals with everything.
    Since American refused to answer my question, perhaps you can take a crack at it: What exactly do you WANT Obama to do about this?
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    Re: Iran test-fires new missile - media

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You don't know what I want him to do. I just want to know what his policy is in dealing with this kind of test. These countries, Iran, Russia and North Korea are testing Obama.
    You're right, they are testing him. Which is exactly why Obama should ignore minor provocations like this one.
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    Re: Iran test-fires new missile - media

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Since American refused to answer my question, perhaps you can take a crack at it: What exactly do you WANT Obama to do about this?
    Obama should take strong action by increasing the sanctions existing on Iraq and forcing a debate on the floor of the UN to determine stronger sanctions and get support for them.

    But alas, this will not happen because we are going to hand international negotiations and enforcement over to the UN. Obama is going to fund his Socialist policies by dismantling our military much like Europe has.

    I am looking forward to this new International respect we will be getting and peaceful overtures from our previous adversaries as they respond to Obama's more intellectual and gentler approach. I am feeling safer already.

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    Re: Iran test-fires new missile - media

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Obama should take strong action by increasing the sanctions existing on Iraq
    You mean Iran? We already got that wrong once, I'd hate to see it happen again.

    What sanctions, specifically, do you want to impose on Iran that we don't already have in place? What conditions, specifically, do you want Iran to meet before returning to the pre-missile test sanctions? And what goal, specifically, do you have in mind for these new sanctions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    and forcing a debate on the floor of the UN to determine stronger sanctions and get support for them.
    So right after you just got done ridiculing Obama for being beholden to the UN, you come out with exactly the same prescription for success. Brilliant, just brilliant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    But alas, this will not happen because we are going to hand international negotiations and enforcement over to the UN. Obama is going to fund his Socialist policies by dismantling our military much like Europe has.
    It sounds to me like your solution is exactly the same as what you imagine Obama's solution is. It's a wonder that you don't like Obama more than you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    I am looking forward to this new International respect we will be getting and peaceful overtures from our previous adversaries as they respond to Obama's more intellectual and gentler approach. I am feeling safer already.
    I noticed that you didn't offer a solution. Other than "let the UN deal with it."
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    Re: Iran test-fires new missile - media

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You mean Iran? We already got that wrong once, I'd hate to see it happen again.
    Yes, I did mean Iran.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What sanctions, specifically, do you want to impose on Iran that we don't already have in place?
    Why does it mean so much to you to find out what I think, I am not the President.

    Iran can easily be squeezed and forced into compliance if our allies and the world were to cease food and gas imports. It's as simple as that. Iran is unable to feed its population without vast food imports and doesnít have the capability of refining its own oil into gasoline.

    Unfortunately, no one wants to risk cutting their precious oil supplies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What conditions, specifically, do you want Iran to meet before returning to the pre-missile test sanctions?
    Iran has to immediately cease production and development of uranium enrichment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And what goal, specifically, do you have in mind for these new sanctions?
    The goal is obvious, unless you willfully wallow in denial. The goal is quite simple; to end Iranís development of new missile technology and uranium enrichment.

    Iran was the one who signed onto the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Iran is the one violating that agreement. Do you think that agreements should mean nothing and have no enforcement value like that of Iraq?

    If you think this, then why should anyone believe anything that is signed to a piece of paper? Why have treaties and agreements if there will be little or no enforcement of them and they become as worthless as the paper they are drafted upon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So right after you just got done ridiculing Obama for being beholden to the UN, you come out with exactly the same prescription for success. Brilliant, just brilliant.
    I see you have difficulty recognizing leadership, and handing over our responsibilities to the UN.

    My prescription wasn't exactly the same as Obamas. Do you even know what Obama's prescription is? If so do share.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It sounds to me like your solution is exactly the same as what you imagine Obama's solution is. It's a wonder that you don't like Obama more than you do.
    Fascinating denial; what part of Obama's plan do you know about that I don't? Last time I looked, he hasn't even begun to deal with the issue nor does he care whether or not Iran develops a nuclear weapon. If he did, we would be hearing strong rhetoric regarding the fact that Iran continues to defy the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I noticed that you didn't offer a solution. Other than "let the UN deal with it."
    If that is how you read my remarks, I would suggest that you read them with your own bias attached to them. But alas, you are only attempting to be obtuse and ignore the fact that neither the Obama administration, nor the UN are taking the issue serious and the rest of the world sits on their hands happy to be getting their oil and choosing to do nothing to keep their oil flowing.

    Fascinating that your remarks suggest doing NOTHING IS a solution to the problem. Is there a point to all your pointless ramblings?

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    Re: Iran test-fires new missile - media

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This means they have almost the same capability (in terms of reach) as our Harpoon missiles.


    The US navy is designed to protect itself from stuff like this.
    Which they've had for decades....

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    This missile may actually be inferior to the Sunburn.

    ooh wow! Iran has a homegrown missile that is inferior to the Russian designed Sunburn anti shipping missiles they've had for years!

    Really. Basic technical knowledge allows for objective understanding of the situation.
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    Re: Iran test-fires new missile - media

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Just a missile? Wow, you almost had me scared for a moment.
    No, not just a missile. An inferior missile to the anti-ship missile they've had for decades.

    It may be even more inferior to the Silkworm Anti-Ship missile. A missile that dates back to before the Iraq-Iran war.

    Silkworm missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Iran test-fires new missile - media

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    No, not just a missile. An inferior missile to the anti-ship missile they've had for decades.

    It may be even more inferior to the Silkworm Anti-Ship missile. A missile that dates back to before the Iraq-Iran war.

    Silkworm missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's amazing what some partisans will jump on.
    I missed the link on this new Iranian missile, where did you place that?
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