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    Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

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    Good idea or not?
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    Re: Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

    Are you kidding me? The Taliban are nuts! Extend a hand and they'll bite it off

    Iran yes, Taliban no.

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    Re: Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

    In no way should Obama even attempt to reach out to the Taliban. This is still the same 'political movement' who harbored Bin Laden and refused to turn him over to U.S forces prior to the war in 2001. This is still the same organizaton that defaced thousands of years old religous statues because they didn't fall in line with their 12th century ass-backwards ideology. Still the same organization that rode around in the back of pick-ups beating women with wooden sticks who showed ankle skin. Still the same organization the made political prisoners jump off concrete 'diving boards' into empty pools. The list of atrocities goes on and on.

    Any attempt to negotiate with elements of the Taliban will be seen as a victory by the jihadists. The Taliban should be treated just like Al-Qaeda and the Bush doctrine of 'We will make no distinction between the terrorists and the countries who harbor them' adhered to.

    I love the analogy the article attempts to make by comparing an outreach to 'moderate Taliban' (which is an oxymoron in itself) to that of reaching out to moderate Sunni and Shiites. The Sunni Awakening that occured in Al-Anbar was simply those religious leaders getting fed up with the AQI bullying and they finally 'awoke' to the futility of the insurgency. It was a way for both sides to save face and for the Sunni's to have a way to take part in the government that they knew was going to shape their future.

    The thought of them bringing in warlords like Gulbeddin Hekmatyar, also known as the 'Vampire' for the way he used to drain Russian soldiers blood while they were still alive, after he would rip their eyeballs out, sickens me. How else other than failure can this be looked upon when you make an attempt to negotiate with warlords who 2 years ago Predator drones were attempting to kill.

    Obama came into office spouting the rhetoric of a 'surge in Afghanistan', in his attempt to avoid becoming another casuality in the 'graveyard of empires' it looks like he is going to fold his hand before it is even dealt. Another wonderful foreign policy move by the Obama administration.

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    Re: Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Are you kidding me? The Taliban are nuts! Extend a hand and they'll bite it off

    Iran yes, Taliban no.
    Yeah, but he's an experience community organizer.
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    Re: Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, but he's an experience community organizer.
    You failed to answer the question at hand, instead you provided unnecessary commentary on Obama's history.

    I am normally for talking and not shooting, but what the hell is a "moderate Taliban" like? They won't kill you as hard? They don't hate you as much? They will limit their oppression of women? They will steal from the super poor and give to the super rich?
    Not a good idea.
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    Re: Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    You failed to answer the question at hand, instead you provided unnecessary commentary on Obama's history.

    I am normally for talking and not shooting, but what the hell is a "moderate Taliban" like? They won't kill you as hard? They don't hate you as much? They will limit their oppression of women? They will steal from the super poor and give to the super rich?
    Not a good idea.
    Maybe his joke had more to do with Iran than the Taliban? A little edgy are we today?
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    Re: Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    Maybe his joke had more to do with Iran than the Taliban? A little edgy are we today?
    It was in reference to both. It was just a general statement. I'm always edgy.
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    Re: Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

    Talk to the Taliban? Yeah, right. You can't talk to extremists. You can only kill them (and pray they will see enlightnment after they are killed ). (sorry to say that, but it is the truth)
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    Re: Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, but he's an experience community organizer.
    Your post is kind of like being cocky after being beat up by a 6 year old. I mean...yeah he's a community organizer. Ha-ha. But he still beat the Republicans, Sarah Palin and John McCain like drums. 300+ electoral votes was it?
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    Re: Obama Ponders Outreach to Elements of the Taliban

    Divde and conquer there is some taliban who see things as a purely local battle and those who see it as a worldwide conflict we need to get them to turn on each other.
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