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    Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

    Finally...a voice of reason in the whitehouse. Its nice to have a President who isn't afraid of science and who actually is going to work to save people's lives.

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    Re: Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

    This is extremely exciting news. I hope this actually gets done and they can make some serious progress with this.

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    Re: Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

    I support stem cell research but I would also like to see more advocacy for prevention of disease. One major use of stem cells is in cancer treatment, but cancer can be prevented by limiting environmental agents that are harming people daily. The entire system is constructed to continue its abuse of human health while looking for "cures".

    Another cure is to stop exposing people to agents which cause cancer, alzheimers, parkison's, etc.

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    Re: Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

    Stem-cell policy change liberating to researchers

    "Eight years of frustration are close to an end for scientists seeking ways to use embryonic stem cells to combat illness and injury."
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    Re: Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

    XXXXXXX, by Delegate Bob Marshall

    Nowhere in any of the White House documents authorizing the moral travesty of experimentation on human embryos, does President Obama acknowledge that the research he wants to fund with tax monies involves the intentional death of newly created human beings.

    Our 44th president, Barrack Obama, skips over this point of “creation.” His inaugural speech, referred to the “God-given promise that all are equal.” But our 3rd President, Thomas Jefferson, said, “all men are created equal.” Is this distinction above Obama’s pay grade?

    Failure to acknowledge a man’s creation, means ignoring “inalienable rights endowed by our Creator.” How convenient!.

    Mr. Obama accuses human experimentation opponents of ideological bias and politics. Yet American taxpayers will be forced to fund lethal research which provides NO cures, therapies, or clinical benefits!

    Until now, the FDA had never approved embryo stem cell therapy because it promotes tumors and growth of wrong organs. Adult stem cell therapy works and has no ethical controversies.

    Nature magazine reported last summer that Harvard scientists turned one type of adult cell directly into another type of adult cell which produces the specialized pancreative beta cells that secrete insulin. This new technique eliminates any scientific justification for using embryonic humans for research.

    Apparently, Mr. Obama thinks he can improve the created order.

    For three years (2005-07) I chaired the Virginia General Assembly Stem Cell Study. Members served from all persuasions on the issue. We had extensive and thorough public hearings with experts in medical, research, scientific and ethical fields.

    The father of American embryo stem cell research, Dr. John Gearhart of John Hopkins University, told our Committee that transplanted embryo stem cells develop tumors and other problems. For these reasons, we unanimously concluded that Virginia should only support adult stem cell research. I believe Virginia is the only state which adopted its policy AFTER a thorough and impartial inquiry.

    President Obama has crossed a moral fault line in the created Universe. He should reflect that while God always forgives, and man sometimes forgives, Nature never forgives and is a stern taskmaster.
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    Re: Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I support stem cell research but I would also like to see more advocacy for prevention of disease. One major use of stem cells is in cancer treatment, but cancer can be prevented by limiting environmental agents that are harming people daily. The entire system is constructed to continue its abuse of human health while looking for "cures".

    Another cure is to stop exposing people to agents which cause cancer, alzheimers, parkison's, etc.
    I'm intrigued.

    What are some specific agents that you are referring to?
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    Re: Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post

    From an email I receive from a state representative.
    Questionable. Most people don't seem to realize that embryonic stem cell research is done on otherwise discard invitro embryos. The same embryos that would be donated to universities or incinerated as biowaste. Either way, the embryos are doomed. Stem cell research is taking cells that would normally be doomed anyway and using them for a productive purpose. The notion that embryonic stem cell research is going to lead to creation of embryos just for destruction is insane, likely dishonest and downright false. For years fertility clinics destroyed hundreds of thousands of embryos without peep from the critics of embryonic stem cell research. And rarely do you see any of them calling for the shut down of invitro fertilization.

    Either they are ignorant or hypocrites.
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    Re: Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post

    From an email I receive from a state representative.
    Your state representative is a nut-job.
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    Re: Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

    Furthermore, the embryos that are discarded are discarded for a reason. Often they carry genes for hereditary diseases, have genetic damage or some other significant problem that removes them from being selected for implantation. We don't want to save those embryos. If we did, we'd simply be propagating hereditary diseases and genetic defects.

    It seems like a simple decision. Use embryos that are not only inferior in genetics harboring diseases and defects, but are doomed anyways to aid research to save potentially millions from all sorts of horrible afflictions.
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    Re: Obama to reverse limits on stem cell work

    After eight years of Bush Obama's stance on science is enough that I doubt I'd ever be in the 'disapprove' category of approval ratings. This move has been a long time coming and I'm glad that Obama is working to reverse the anti-science attitude that has characterized the White House lately. America should always be at the forefront of science, and I think that America's relative absence in stem cell research for nearly a decade has put a real damper on medical progress. I applaud Obama for reversing the ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research

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