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'Obama' snacks don't go down well in Indonesia

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'Obama' snacks don't go down well in Indonesia

'Obama' snacks don't go down well in Indonesia


t also bears a peace symbol and the word "peace," along with a teaser suggesting that if you are lucky you might win a bonus.

The Indonesian Consumer Foundation has called on the government to investigate, saying the snack is defamatory to President Obama and potentially harmful to children's health.

"What's the aim of using such an image? It's defamation and the producer should be investigated," Foundation head Indah Suksmaningsih said.
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How is it defamatory? To me it looked like it was a pro-obama snack.....
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
How is it defamatory? To me it looked like it was a pro-obama snack.....
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How is using the President of the United States image to sell a commercial good not defamatory? Especially a cheaply produced product.
 
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Gibberish said:
How is using the President of the United States image to sell a commercial good not defamatory? Especially a cheaply produced product.
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1. it's india Indonesia, who cares.

2. How is it defamatory?
 
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Yeah, this one makes little sense.
 
Each 500-rupiah (four-cent) packet of "Obamas" contains a small plastic toy which is "unhygienic" and could be mistaken as food by infants, said foundation legal affairs officer Sularsi, who only uses one name.
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Does this suggest that there are different sizes to the Obama snack?
I wish they would expand on the unhygienic properties. I'd be worried about a child choking on my President of the United States......... take it as it is.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
1. it's india Indonesia, who cares.
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I don't care it's indonesia. The point is no country should be using our President to promote any commercial goods.

Would you be OK driving through Vietnam and seeing a large image of Ronald Reagan telling you to buy motor scooters in 3 miles at Quy Kim's motor scooter surplus?

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
2. How is it defamatory?
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You have a commercial product that is potentially harmful to people that has the image of the President of the United States on it subliminally promoting the product. Again, how is that not defamatory?
 
Arch Enemy said:
Does this suggest that there are different sizes to the Obama snack?
I wish they would expand on the unhygienic properties. I'd be worried about a child choking on my President of the United States......... take it as it is.
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We are all choking on Obamas........ (sorry I couldn't resist. :mrgreen: )
 
This is funny.
I would try and purchase some hoping that they would greatly increase in value, especially if discontinued, but they will probably end up being just like Billy Beer.
Not a great investment.


Gibberish said:
The point is no country should be using our President to promote any commercial goods.
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Says who?


Gibberish said:
Would you be OK driving through Vietnam and seeing a large image of Ronald Reagan telling you to buy motor scooters in 3 miles at Quy Kim's motor scooter surplus?
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I would have no problem with that.
Even if done while he was sitting as President.


Gibberish said:
You have a commercial product that is potentially harmful to people that has the image of the President of the United States on it subliminally promoting the product. Again, how is that not defamatory?
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Subliminally? It is pretty straight forward.

It has the likeness of our President and actually shows support for our Country and Obama.
Nothing about is defamatory except for possibly the words it contains next to the likeness. 'Anti-terrorist.'
Because clearly it is open for debate whether he is or isn't.


It is a snack and of no consequence.
If it contains a harmful toy, get rid of the toy, not the snack.

Naming a 'waste treatment plant' after Bush was more defamatory than this ever could be.
 
Coolguy said:
I would have no problem with that.
Even if done while he was sitting as President.
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That's great. I personally feel that other countries shouldn't be using our Presidents as spokesmen for their commercial products without that President's explicit okay to do so.

Coolguy said:
Nothing about is defamatory except for possibly the words it contains next to the likeness. 'Anti-terrorist.'
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The fact that it depicts our President endorsing a commercial product, a potentially harmful one at that, as if he is some sort of sports figure is defamatory.

Coolguy said:
Naming a 'waste treatment plant' after Bush was more defamatory than this ever could be.
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Completely different. That is a US location named after a President. To compare the two Bush would have to have been named after a new PCA disrupted Peanut filled chocolate bar.
 
Gibberish said:
That's great. I personally feel that other countries shouldn't be using our Presidents as spokesmen for their commercial products without that President's explicit okay to do so.
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If that country has a law against it, fine, if not, there is nothing wrong with it other than a personal 'feeling'.


Gibberish said:
The fact that it depicts our President endorsing a commercial product, a potentially harmful one at that, as if he is some sort of sports figure is defamatory.
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The product isn't what may be harmful, it is the toy that accompanies the product that may be. Simply removing the toy removes the potential.
One, it is a likeness, not an image.
Two, I am starting to wonder if you know what defamatory actually means, because there is nothing defamatory about it.

It shows that they like Obama, support Obama and through him, the U.S.
That in no way is defamatory.

Do you also think that putting an actual image or likeness of Obama on t-shirts and coins in this Country, to make a profit, is defamatory?

How about an image or likeness of Chavez?


Gibberish said:
Completely different. That is a US location named after a President. To compare the two Bush would have to have been named after a new PCA disrupted Peanut filled chocolate bar.
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Naming a waste treatment plant, a government building, after a President, in and of it's self, is not defamatory, what made it defamatory was the intent behind such a move.
But your example is flawed because the product isn't harmful like the recalled peanuts are, and simply naming a peanut filled chocolate bar after a president isn't defamatory.


So, like I already said: "Naming a 'waste treatment plant' after Bush was more defamatory than this ever could be."
 
And the most important part of the issue here is what are the snacks made of?

Clearly the article fails to discuss it.

It is a cookie? A fruit snack? Some kind of candy? Does it taste good?

Seriously, that's all that matters in a stupid thread like this.
 
Some kind of fruitcake with nuts.........


Sorry, couldn't resist! :)
 
obvious Child said:
And the most important part of the issue here is what are the snacks made of?

Clearly the article fails to discuss it.

It is a cookie? A fruit snack? Some kind of candy? Does it taste good?

Seriously, that's all that matters in a stupid thread like this.
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I watched a video. They look something like Planter's Cheez Balls did.
 
Gibberish said:
I don't care it's indonesia. The point is no country should be using our President to promote any commercial goods.

Would you be OK driving through Vietnam and seeing a large image of Ronald Reagan telling you to buy motor scooters in 3 miles at Quy Kim's motor scooter surplus?
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I wouldn't care. He was just a president not a god.

You have a commercial product that is potentially harmful to people that has the image of the President of the United States on it subliminally promoting the product. Again, how is that not defamatory?
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the potentially harmful part sure, pull the product, but the name? who cares. we did not elect a king.
 
obvious Child said:
And the most important part of the issue here is what are the snacks made of?

Clearly the article fails to discuss it.

It is a cookie? A fruit snack? Some kind of candy? Does it taste good?

Seriously, that's all that matters in a stupid thread like this.
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yeah, wheather it is an oreo or a bon bon, thats whats important..... :roll:



If you don't like the thread btw, you can stay out of it..... it's called self control, try it sometime. :2wave:
 
Gibberish said:
I don't care it's indonesia. The point is no country should be using our President to promote any commercial goods.

Would you be OK driving through Vietnam and seeing a large image of Ronald Reagan telling you to buy motor scooters in 3 miles at Quy Kim's motor scooter surplus?


You have a commercial product that is potentially harmful to people that has the image of the President of the United States on it subliminally promoting the product. Again, how is that not defamatory?
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"Who does this defame"? I don`t see how it defames anyone at all. Who does this inflame? Theres the question. It defames not one entity, but the political, social, and national sensitivities of MANY,are crapped all over with this stupidity. BTW, who decided to sell our half-assed president to the world in the first place, and why ? Try putting Kim Jung Ills face on a chevy add..., you`ve just gotten the true character of Barry snacks.
 
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