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    Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

    Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

    The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses.

    And an official of the World Health Organization’s European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International’s research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.

    “At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and occupational risk is minimal at present,” medical officer Roberta Andraghetti said from Copenhagen, Denmark.

    “But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau.”

    The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.

    The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses.

    Public health authorities concerned about what has been described as a “serious error” on Baxter’s part have assumed the death of the ferrets meant the H5N1 virus in the product was live. But the company, Baxter International Inc., has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event.

    On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communications confirmed what scientists have suspected.

    “It was live,” Christopher Bona said in an email.

    The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine — including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a licence is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic.

    People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted.

    Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences.

    While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people.

    That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.

    There is no suggestion that happened because of this accident, however.

    “We have no evidence of any reassortment, that any reassortment may have occurred,” said Andraghetti.

    “And we have no evidence of any increased transmissibility of the viruses that were involved in the experiment with the ferrets in the Czech Republic.”

    Baxter hasn’t shed much light — at least not publicly — on how the accident happened. Earlier this week Bona called the mistake the result of a combination of “just the process itself, (and) technical and human error in this procedure.”

    He said he couldn’t reveal more information because it would give away proprietary information about Baxter’s production process.

    Andraghetti said Friday the four investigating governments are co-operating closely with the WHO and the European Centre for Disease Control in Stockholm, Sweden.

    “We are in very close contact with Austrian authorities to understand what the circumstances of the incident in their laboratory were,” she said.

    “And the reason for us wishing to know what has happened is to prevent similar events in the future and to share lessons that can be learned from this event with others to prevent similar events. ... This is very important.”
    And related :

    Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries by Mike Adams the Health Ranger

    Deerfield, Illinois-based pharmaceutical company Baxter International Inc. has just been caught shipping live avian flu viruses mixed with vaccine material to medical distributors in 18 countries. The "mistake" (if you can call it that, see below...) was discovered by the National Microbiology Laboratory in Canada. The World Health Organization was alerted and panic spread throughout the vaccine community as health experts asked the obvious question: How could this have happened?

    As published on LifeGen.de (http://www.lifegen.de/newsip/showne...), serious questions like this are being raised:

    "Baxter International Inc. in Austria 'unintentionally contaminated samples with the bird flu virus that were used in laboratories in 3 neighbouring countries, raising concern about the potential spread of the deadly disease'. Austria, Germany, Slowenia and the Czech Republic - these are the countries in which labs were hit with dangerous viruses. Not by bioterrorist commandos, but by Baxter. In other words: One of the major global pharmaceutical players seems to have lost control over a virus which is considered by many virologists to be one of the components leading some day to a new pandemic."

    Or, put another way, Baxter is acting a whole lot like a biological terrorism organization these days, sending deadly viral samples around the world. If you mail an envelope full of anthrax to your Senator, you get arrested as a terrorist. So why is Baxter -- which mailed samples of a far more deadly viral strain to labs around the world -- getting away with saying, essentially, "Oops?"

    But there's a bigger question in all this: How could this company have accidentally mixed LIVE avian flu viruses (both H5N1 and H3N2, the human form) in this vaccine material?

    Was the viral contamination intentional?
    The shocking answer is that this couldn't have been an accident. Why? Because Baxter International adheres to something called BSL3 (Biosafety Level 3) - a set of laboratory safety protocols that prevent the cross-contamination of materials.

    As explained on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosaf...):

    "Laboratory personnel have specific training in handling pathogenic and potentially lethal agents, and are supervised by competent scientists who are experienced in working with these agents. This is considered a neutral or warm zone. All procedures involving the manipulation of infectious materials are conducted within biological safety cabinets or other physical containment devices, or by personnel wearing appropriate personal protective clothing and equipment. The laboratory has special engineering and design features."
    So, If I'm understanding this correctly :

    This H5N1 kills like 60% of the people that get it, but is not very contagious... the H3N2 is highly contagious but not very fatal... and *somehow* they were going to inject this combination into the bloodstream where it could "reassort" and become an airborne highly contagious virus that kills 60% of people that get it?!?!?!

    If that doesn't fall into GROSS criminal negligence, I don't know.

    I feel like this should go in the conspiracy forum... but wow...

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    Re: Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

    Wow... humanity narrowly averted a potential pandemic that potentially could have killed 60% of humanity and noone cares??

    That this was more than likely INTENTIONAL, and going to be put into the FLU VACCINE... if those shipments had gone out we're talking about injecting yourself with what amounts to a BIOWEAPON that would risk the lives of 60$ of the people exposed to it, yet be as contagious as the common cold.

    The next comparable thing that could have happeneed would be if a nuke fell out of the back of a truck, armed, but mis-fired.

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    Re: Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

    No comment whatsoever???

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    Re: Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

    These companies are playing with fire.

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    Re: Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus | Canada | News | Toronto Sun



    And related :

    Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries by Mike Adams the Health Ranger



    So, If I'm understanding this correctly :

    This H5N1 kills like 60% of the people that get it, but is not very contagious... the H3N2 is highly contagious but not very fatal... and *somehow* they were going to inject this combination into the bloodstream where it could "reassort" and become an airborne highly contagious virus that kills 60% of people that get it?!?!?!

    If that doesn't fall into GROSS criminal negligence, I don't know.

    I feel like this should go in the conspiracy forum... but wow...
    I swear that sometimes I believe we humans are going to kill ourselves before anything else has a chance.
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    Re: Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    These companies are playing with fire.
    I'm thinking something MUCH MORE diabolical....
    The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.
    Now, since H5N1 is supposed to be a virus with a 60% fatality rate from infection.
    1 - HOW THE HELL does such a highly fatal virus get 'shipped out' UNLABELLED?? You'd think such a highly fatal biohazard would be labelled to the extent that you'd label radioactive waste.
    2 - How do 2 LIVE VIRUSES get sent to a biotech lab and not test it for what's inside BEFORE sending it out to several different countries??

    Public health authorities concerned about what has been described as a “serious error” on Baxter’s part have assumed the death of the ferrets meant the H5N1 virus in the product was live. But the company, Baxter International Inc., has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event.
    Now, I can understand the desire to want to 'save your own skin' but by talking about this error initially as 'company secrets' should be treated as much an infraction to go UNREPORTED as not reportiing a car accident where there was a fatality.

    That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.

    There is no suggestion that happened because of this accident, however.

    “We have no evidence of any reassortment, that any reassortment may have occurred,” said Andraghetti
    So NOT ONLY did they manage to send LIVE, UNLABELLED bird flu virus to these labs, they also used a MIXING PROXESS that is one of 2 ways that PANDEMIC VIRUSES are created.... now, I'm not a lab tech by any means... but you'd EXPECT that any lab suit could know that the technique was potentially creating a pandemic virus??

    Given this series of UNLIKELY events, happeneing IN SEQUENCE that directly could have put at risk a large portion of humanity... This almost seems like an attempted act of BIOTERRORISM.... and well, I do appreciate both of your previous comments.... given the SEVERITY of this news, I'm actually kind of surprised at the lack of comments...

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    Re: Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

    I'm failing to see how this was orchestrated and not a mistake.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

    I was surprised at the lack of media coverage and outrage over this as well. I know when I heard it I made an immediate note to self to NOT get any vaccine for this swine flu crapola even when they come out with one. Baxter is one of the companies working with the WHO on the swine flu vaccine. And, crazily their stock took no big hit after this mishap which is really odd. Sure, it wasn't covered well by the major media but it's all over the internet. It would be interesting for someone to force them to come forward and explain how in the world such an accident happens exactly.

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    Re: Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I'm failing to see how this was orchestrated and not a mistake.
    Well there's bio safety level regulations that Baxter is supposed to be following which would seemingly prevent just this type of thing. The idea of human error causing a mishap such as this with all those regulations in place is hard to believe and if they're not following the bio safety level regulations they ought to be shut down which is why their stock ought to be in the toilet. But it's not.

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    Re: Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

    Baxter International, which is based in Deerfield, Ill., said the contamination was the result of an error in its research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.

    The facility had been contracted by Avir Green Hills to make what Baxter refers to as "experimental virus material" based on human H3N2 viruses.

    Christopher Bona, Baxter's director of global bioscience communications, said the liquid virus product was not a vaccine and was developed for testing purposes only. He deferred questions about the purpose of the testing to Avir Green Hills, but said the batch was to be used in animals and was never intended for use in humans.
    Nice that they're just concocting dangerous crap for testing purposes only.


    Bona said Baxter has identified how the contamination happened and has taken steps to ensure it doesn't happen again. He said Austrian authorities audited Baxter's Orth-Donau research operations after the problem came to light and are satisfied with the steps taken.
    Well that's swell. Their stock still should have taken a dive. The only reason it hasn't is the news networks are asleep at the wheel.

    Officials investigate how bird flu viruses were sent to unsuspecting labs - Infection - C-Health

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