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    Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama on Thursday called for a comprehensive overhaul of the U.S. health care system, warning that soaring medical costs present "one of the greatest threats not just to the well-being of our families ... but to the very foundation of our economy."

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    "We cannot delay this discussion any longer," Obama said. "Health care reform is no longer just a moral imperative, it is a fiscal imperative. If we want to create jobs, rebuild our economy, and get our federal budget under control, then we must address the crushing cost of health care this year."
    My problem with this is not that Obama wants to do something about the Health Care system, my problem is that he is using the same fear type tactics that Bush did to get things he wants done.

    If anything this needs EXTREME discussion, from all sides.

    Obama, stop playing the fear tactics on the economy.

    Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system - CNN.com

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    Re: Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    My problem with this is not that Obama wants to do something about the Health Care system, my problem is that he is using the same fear type tactics that Bush did to get things he wants done.

    If anything this needs EXTREME discussion, from all sides.

    Obama, stop playing the fear tactics on the economy.

    Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system - CNN.com
    It's his only card so far.

    Fear fear, and then he holds goofy "discussion groups"... what's up with that crap. Glad you realize he's doing no one any favors with his talk, my belief is, he's gonna give us a UK style health program... and we're all gonna suffer for it.
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    Re: Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system

    WTF is a "health-care czar"?

    Obama's new health and human services secretary nominee, Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, was not in attendance at the summit, though Nancy-Ann DeParle, the newly announced health care czar, was there.
    Later it explains that this "czar" will be the point person to discuss options with Congress. Is the H&HS secretary position not allowed to speak to Congress? Here's a genius idea for cutting back government spending. Quit creating duplicate positions. We didn't need a war czar(because we have a Sec Def) and we don't need a healthcare czar(because we have a Sec of HHS).

    I have a feeling Obama is going to try to fix everything, and end up fixing nothing. I mean, I'm not against healthcare reform and I have outlined where i think problems are many times in the past. But how much money does Obama think we can spend on everything?
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    Re: Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's his only card so far.

    Fear fear, and then he holds goofy "discussion groups"... what's up with that crap. Glad you realize he's doing no one any favors with his talk, my belief is, he's gonna give us a UK style health program... and we're all gonna suffer for it.
    I think if Obama sent you a personal check for a million dollars, you would find a reason to complain about it.

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    Re: Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I have a feeling Obama is going to try to fix everything, and end up fixing nothing. I mean, I'm not against healthcare reform and I have outlined where i think problems are many times in the past. But how much money does Obama think we can spend on everything?
    He's trying to fix everything too fast IMO. While I don't disagree with everything Obama is trying to fix, doing it too fast isn't going to help either.

    My friend would like to get his kids college funds, house paid, new car, retirement money completely saved, and have enough for vacations for the next 10 years, but he isn't going to get all of that money at once. It takes time.

    Obama needs to be patient as well. And if it is so urgent, it should have been in the last stimulus bill that was passed. Isn't that what it was for?
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    Re: Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    He's trying to fix everything too fast IMO. While I don't disagree with everything Obama is trying to fix, doing it too fast isn't going to help either.

    My friend would like to get his kids college funds, house paid, new car, retirement money completely saved, and have enough for vacations for the next 10 years, but he isn't going to get all of that money at once. It takes time.

    Obama needs to be patient as well. And if it is so urgent, it should have been in the last stimulus bill that was passed. Isn't that what it was for?
    Just because you have checks, doesn't mean there is money in the account.
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    Re: Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think if Obama sent you a personal check for a million dollars, you would find a reason to complain about it.
    Unless it was out of his personal account... yeah I probably would.
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    Re: Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system

    Hmmmm....and Obama is supposed to be a Hahvahd law perfesser, too.

    I spell nationalization N-A-T-I-O-N-A-L-I-Z-A-T-I-O-N, not O-V-E-R-H-A-U-L.

    Must be because Obama's native language is Kenyan.

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    Re: Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    He's trying to fix everything too fast IMO. While I don't disagree with everything Obama is trying to fix, doing it too fast isn't going to help either.
    Obama has to hurry before whatever opiate the public drank to vote for him wears off. The DJIA is a pretty indicator of how much opium is left in the voter's systems, I think.

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    Re: Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    My problem with this is not that Obama wants to do something about the Health Care system, my problem is that he is using the same fear type tactics that Bush did to get things he wants done.

    If anything this needs EXTREME discussion, from all sides.

    Obama, stop playing the fear tactics on the economy.

    Obama calls for overhaul of U.S. health care system - CNN.com
    I have to say that you just earned a lot of respect from me. It's nice to see a liberal on these boards for a change that is capable of seeing things how they actually are. It's one thing to disagree ideologically, but when there are so many here who are intellectually dishonest, it's nice to see someone like yourself that can call an apple an apple.

    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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