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    Re: Rove agrees to be deposed under oath after three subpoenas

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Hey, a 2 sentence post.
    Well, we know you libs.

    On another thread we had one of your brethren complain an article was sooooooooo long.
    All 909 words.

    We know you folks have a difficult time focusing... hence the brevity.

    I think one reason you folks gleefully chanted "yes we can" is because you were proud of being able to remember the entire text.

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    Re: Rove agrees to be deposed under oath after three subpoenas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    If I had to rank things that the Bush Administration should be investigated for, a bunch of lawyers getting fired would barely make it into the top hundred
    I'll bite....what would be your top 5?

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    Re: Rove agrees to be deposed under oath after three subpoenas

    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    I love it when people quote Wikipedia, it almost invalidates their point right off the bat.

    This is a witch hunt and nothing more. Were these same people just as upset at Clinton when he did this? This is a waste of taxpayer money. The attorneys served at the pleasure of the President, it's just that simple.
    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    When did Clinton fire the US attorneys that he himself appointed? Please point this out, as I don't remember it happening.
    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    So now it's not OK to fire people you hire? What lame point are you trying to make here?
    Crickets chirping as you avoid the question...centrist
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    Re: Rove agrees to be deposed under oath after three subpoenas

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Clintons started the smear campaign... campaign of personal destruction they are so masterful at... too bad it did not run for a few days more.
    You know, those of us who've been around for more than one or even two presidencies understand this game. Karl Rove didn't invent the politics of personal destruction. The Clinton's were probably far more expert than he. And they didn't invent it, either. It's an ancient game. The Romans, Greeks and Sumerians played it I'm sure.

    What's so troublesome to me about what's going on right now is the a new precedent is being established. And that precedent would be to follow administration officials AFTER THEY'VE LEFT OFFICE in attempts to destroy them. It's one thing for the Congress to play hardball with the executive branch. It's another thing altogether for Congress to play hardball with private citizens who've successfully maneuvered through the scheming and game-playing while in Washington and are now out of power. The Democrats wanted Rove. They wanted him badly. They could never touch him. Game over. At least, that's the way the game used to be played.

    It's a dangerous precedent they're trying to set. One they may well regret later if they go down this path...


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    Re: Rove agrees to be deposed under oath after three subpoenas

    I'll try to find the article. I read that this is why Obama is creating duplicate cabinet posts or czars. To protect them from ever having to testify, by using the executive privelage defense.
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    Re: Rove agrees to be deposed under oath after three subpoenas

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    I'll try to find the article. I read that this is why Obama is creating duplicate cabinet posts or czars. To protect them from ever having to testify, by using the executive privelage defense.
    Will this suffice?

    Sen. Byrd questions Obama's use of policy 'czars'
    By NOELLE STRAUB,
    Published: February 25, 2009


    Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), who for decades has battled White House power and championed congressional clout, is questioning President Obama's appointment of "czars" to oversee key policy areas, including energy and climate.

    "The rapid and easy accumulation of power by White House staff can threaten the Constitutional system of checks and balances," Byrd wrote in a letter to Obama. "At the worst, White House staff have taken direction and control of programmatic areas that are the statutory responsibility of Senate-confirmed officials."

    Byrd specifically cited the creation of a new White House Office of Energy and Climate Change, which is headed by Carol Browner. He also noted new offices for health reform and urban affairs policy and the appointment of White House staff to coordinate on technology and management performance policies.

    He also listed numerous examples from the administrations of Presidents Richard Nixon and George W. Bush of officials who directed policy as White House assistants.

    "Too often, I have seen these lines of authority and responsibility become tangled and blurred, sometimes purposely, to shield information and to obscure the decision-making process," Byrd wrote.

    Byrd, who carries a copy of the Constitution with him and often cites it in floor speeches, said the czars are not accountable to Congress or to Cabinet officials and rarely testify before congressional committees. He said they often "shield the information and decision-making process behind the assertion of executive privilege" and too often "have been allowed to inhibit openness and transparency, and reduce accountability."
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    Sen. Byrd questions Obama's use of policy 'czars' - NYTimes.com

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    Re: Rove agrees to be deposed under oath after three subpoenas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    You know, those of us who've been around for more than one or even two presidencies understand this game. Karl Rove didn't invent the politics of personal destruction. The Clinton's were probably far more expert than he. And they didn't invent it, either. It's an ancient game. The Romans, Greeks and Sumerians played it I'm sure.

    What's so troublesome to me about what's going on right now is the a new precedent is being established. And that precedent would be to follow administration officials AFTER THEY'VE LEFT OFFICE in attempts to destroy them. It's one thing for the Congress to play hardball with the executive branch. It's another thing altogether for Congress to play hardball with private citizens who've successfully maneuvered through the scheming and game-playing while in Washington and are now out of power. The Democrats wanted Rove. They wanted him badly. They could never touch him. Game over. At least, that's the way the game used to be played.

    It's a dangerous precedent they're trying to set. One they may well regret later if they go down this path...

    True. Dems like precedent.

    They have no qualms going where the Founders did not intend them to go.
    In fact, like badly raised children they revel in it and pursue it with gusto.

    Then they raise the middle finger to the neighbors because they know nothing of consequence will happen when they get home... in the arms of the AMMP... Democrat Propagandists in the Press.

    Payback is a bitch, and I do hope the R's take it to the Libs in the worst way when they can. I hope they have no mercy.

    But when you have tax cheats galore... Rangel, Geithner, Daschle, Killefer... or those that got sweetheart loans from Country Wide... like Dodd, or corrupt managers like Raines and Gorellick... folks that thieve classified documents from the National Archives... Sandy Burgler, Whore House managers... Barney Frank, or have cold cash problems like William Jefferson... and zippo is done, what can you do?


    Scorched earth is the only way the Left learns.

    Special prosecutors got pretty tiring when The Clintons were on the receiving end of the bat.

    Looks like they want to learn the hard way.

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    Re: Rove agrees to be deposed under oath after three subpoenas

    *cough* Still waiting on an answer from WillRockwell, the "centrist". *cough*
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    Re: Rove agrees to be deposed under oath after three subpoenas

    I believe one of two things has happened with WillRockwell, the centrist. Either he has seen that he made a mistake and isn't man enough to admit that he did or his blatantly partisan bias has been exposed and he's hoping this will all go away. Which is it WillRockwell, the centrist? If you are going to make a ridiculous statement, you should at least be able to back it up, right?
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Rove agrees to be deposed under oath after three subpoenas

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Funny how different people see the same info in a completely different way.

    From what I know of this story, I feel it's highly important to get at the truth. Otherwise the Pres from here on out can call whatever shots he/she wants without having to answer to no one, most importantly, not "we the people."
    But he doesn't have to answer to anyone over the firings.


    This is just a witch hunt to go after Rove with a "perjury" charge by triping him up on his testimony. There will be no criminal prosecutions except for that single charge. It worked in the Plame case which had nothing to do with her identity and proved as much. In fact the case even killed its own reason for existence as it played out. They still managed to hit Libby with a perjury charge but not a single other thing having to do with the original Plame case.

    Thats how this is going to play out.
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