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    Obama overturns Bush endangered species rule

    Obama overturns Bush endangered species rule - CNN.com

    President Obama on Tuesday overturned a last-minute Bush administration regulation that many environmentalists claim weakened the Endangered Species Act.

    The regulation, issued a few weeks before George W. Bush left office, made it easier for federal agencies to skip consultations with government scientists before launching projects that could affect endangered wildlife.
    This is good.


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    Re: Obama overturns Bush endangered species rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I'm not sure why this is so good. While I recognize environmental issues as being very important (and am even doing some GA work for a company that has a fantastic program to help improve clean water initiatives and waste disposal/landfill problems) I have some serious concerns about how endangered species rules have unnecessarily restricted our ability to explore for natural energy. In a time when we are struggling to become energy independent (well working towards that goal as outrageous as it may seem) the last thing we need is the striped furry pond frog getting preference over the U.S. populace.
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    Re: Obama overturns Bush endangered species rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I'm not sure why this is so good. While I recognize environmental issues as being very important (and am even doing some GA work for a company that has a fantastic program to help improve clean water initiatives and waste disposal/landfill problems) I have some serious concerns about how endangered species rules have unnecessarily restricted our ability to explore for natural energy. In a time when we are struggling to become energy independent (well working towards that goal as outrageous as it may seem) the last thing we need is the striped furry pond frog getting preference over the U.S. populace.
    But it was a matter of government project directors not consulting anyone on how certain things would affect the environment. This is wrong.

    This doesn't mean that all searches for natural energy are halted, it just means that projects won't be carelessly started with negligence to animal wildlife.

    That is why it is good.


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    Obama Suspends Bush Rule on Endangered Species

    By executive order, President Bush suspended a rule in the Endangered Species Act, which required Federal agencies to consult with "experts" on the environmental impact of Federal projects on endangered species.

    Today, President Obama has overturned that rule.

    I have one question to ask about this controversy, and I ask this question to everybody on both sides of the aisle:

    Isn't Congress supposed to enact law, and the Executive Branch enforce what Congress enacts? Is the Executive Branch overextending its powers in both cases? And what about Congress? Where the hell are they? Why aren't they sticking up for themselves?

    OK, that was 3 questions, not one, but you get the idea. IMHO, something unconstitutional happened when Bush issued his executive order, and something unconstitutional is happening with Obama issuing his.

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    Re: Obama Suspends Bush Rule on Endangered Species

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    Re: Obama Suspends Bush Rule on Endangered Species

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    Re: Obama overturns Bush endangered species rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I'm not sure why this is so good. While I recognize environmental issues as being very important (and am even doing some GA work for a company that has a fantastic program to help improve clean water initiatives and waste disposal/landfill problems) I have some serious concerns about how endangered species rules have unnecessarily restricted our ability to explore for natural energy. In a time when we are struggling to become energy independent (well working towards that goal as outrageous as it may seem) the last thing we need is the striped furry pond frog getting preference over the U.S. populace.
    I understand your concerns. However, this is an ethical issue as well. Does this generation have the moral authority to rob future generations of biodiversity simply in an attempt to maintain our way of life in this generation?

    For example, should the Woodland Caribou go extinct in America just so we can have the chance at slightly cheaper lumber?
    Last edited by SouthernDemocrat; 03-04-09 at 03:18 PM.
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    Re: Obama overturns Bush endangered species rule

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I understand your concerns. However, this is an ethical issue as well. Does this generation have the moral authority to rob future generations of biodiversity simply in an attempt to maintain our way of life in this generation?

    For example, should the Woodland Caribou go extinct in America just so we can have the chance at slightly cheaper lumber?
    Future generations can deal with what they get handed from us, just like we deal with what the ones before us, handed to us. Improvise, adapt, overcome.
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    Re: Obama overturns Bush endangered species rule

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Future generations can deal with what they get handed from us, just like we deal with what the ones before us, handed to us. Improvise, adapt, overcome.
    Previous generations gave us National Parks, National Forests, and Federal Wilderness areas, as well as the Endangered Species Act.

    What moral authority do we have in this generation, or any generation, to cause the extinction of a species?
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    Re: Obama overturns Bush endangered species rule

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Previous generations gave us National Parks, National Forests, and Federal Wilderness areas, as well as the Endangered Species Act.

    What moral authority do we have in this generation, or any generation, to cause the extinction of a species?
    Species go extinct all the time, what does it matter if its us or some other cause that wipes them out?
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