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    Re: 'Seize the moment': Brown makes speech of his life to U.S. Congress after muted r

    Quote Originally Posted by Op's Article
    Over Mr Brown's shoulder was another reminder of the change in Britain's influence in the Oval Office.


    A bronze bust of Abraham Lincoln, the 19th century president Mr Obama considers his political hero, now sits where a bust of Winston Churchill previously held pride of place.
    There used to be a bust of Winston Churchill in the White-freaking-House?
    Are you kidding me?
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    Re: 'Seize the moment': Brown makes speech of his life to U.S. Congress after muted r

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Of course you know how much it all costed cuz you saw the bill.
    I never said anything of the sort.

    Wagyu steak was served, Malkin admitted she was unfamiliar with that cut of beef, she looked up the cost.

    That's a tough one to comprehend.

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    In any event, if you're taking this postion, then you must be perfectly ok with Brown not getting the lavish treatment, correct?
    Wrong again, what a surprise.

    You said:

    Obama was offered a posh dinner with our Prime Minister last week and he politely declined. He said it would not look good in the eyes of people who are suffering economically.
    I showed by way of link, that Obama has been holding lavish parties, which makes Obama a liar, by making statements such as the one in bold above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    My best guess is that Obama is being consistant.
    Yep, you guessed right, he's consistently lying.
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    Re: 'Seize the moment': Brown makes speech of his life to U.S. Congress after muted r

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    -- Blair was demonized for his fawning, toadyesque adoration of Bush, it's politically expedient for Brown to give himself a little more distance from the current American president --
    BBC news tonight talked of the disappointment with Brown when he visited the states during Bush's last year - disappointment that he "wasn't another Blair."

    You're very right that Blair lost credibility here for fawning over both Bush and Clinton. I personally had hopes (though I dislike the man) that Brown would keep his distance and be more realistic about the "special relationship." Instead he was invited to address the Congress and under influence of the occasion he went and blurted it all out again.

    It's time the British PM (whoever he/she may be) recognises that the UK is not special neither does it deserve or want a special place in the eyes of the US. Britain needs to find her own way and path in the world and it shouldn't be at the US's beck and call and we shouldn't pander to whatever US President is in place and whatever war he or she wants us to support.

    Brown may have won some "Brownie points" (a colloquial term here) with Congress but he still faces hard questions when he gets back and he's still on his way out. I only hope David Cameron or whoever replaces Gordon Brown has an independent vision of Britain's future. We deserve a leader who know better than thinking we are the US's favourite pet rat, fit only to pick the scraps from the table.

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    Re: 'Seize the moment': Brown makes speech of his life to U.S. Congress after muted r

    Obama humbled Europeans? You guys are making it sound like it's a bad thing or something. Did I miss a memo where it's no longer cool to give a middle finger to Europeans?
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    Re: 'Seize the moment': Brown makes speech of his life to U.S. Congress after muted r

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Obama humbled Europeans? You guys are making it sound like it's a bad thing or something. Did I miss a memo where it's no longer cool to give a middle finger to Europeans?
    Britainia is not Europe.
    Old Europe is not like New Europe.

    Many in Old Europe deserve our middle finger.
    The Brits and New Europe are largely exempted.
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    Re: 'Seize the moment': Brown makes speech of his life to U.S. Congress after muted r

    On US radio's Garrison show today, I was asked for my reaction as a true born Englishman to President Obama's double insult - first the sending back of the Winston Churchill bust, then his snub to Gordon Brown. "Tough one. Really tough one," I said, torn - as most of surely are - between delight at seeing Brown roundly humiliated, and dismay at having the special relationship so peremptorily, cruelly and bafflingly ruptured.
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    The Clintons are what happens...
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