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    Re: White House fires back at Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Really sad that you would toss the nation into depression because of your ideology.
    He really believes that Obama's **** will work. Hahaha, come on.
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    Re: White House fires back at Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He really believes that Obama's **** will work. Hahaha, come on.
    Oh, it WILL work -- in fact, it will do exactly what The Obama and His ilk want it to do:

    It will succeed in nationalizing huge portions of our economy, it will succeed in socializing the costs associated with same, and it will succeed in teaching people that they can depend on government to bail them out of their bad decisions -- even decisions that were made deliberately or because of greed -- using rich peoples' money.
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    Re: White House fires back at Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    did you want Bush's SS privitization to succeed?

    Did you want Bush's Tax cuts "to the rich" to succeed?



    I find it absurd how those who spent the last 8 years bashing bush are now calling for anyone to support Obama.
    The way I see it, is that when people on the left wanted certain plans to fail, they were attacked as being un-American, unpatriotic, etc.

    Now that a leftist is in the white house, after 8 years of bashing those who wanted Bush's policies to fail, the right is actively hoping that Obama's policies will fail and are now being attacked as un-American, unpatriotic, etc.

    What this tells me, more than anything else, is that people on both sides are raging hypocrites. If someone on the left wanted Bush's policies to fail, labeling those on the right as unpatriotic for wanting Obama's to fail is hypocricy.

    And conversely, if those on the right, like Rush, labeled lefties as unpatriotic for not supporting Bush's policies, they are hypocrites to now do the same thing while using the same defenses as those on the left did for the last 8 years.

    I don't agree with either side being labeled as "unpatriotic" or "un-American" because they want policies they disagree with to fail. I was against it for the last 8 years, and I'm still against it now.



    Now, on a personal note, even when I disagree with a policy, once it is passed, I hope it will succeed. What I want more than anything else once legislation passes that I adamantly oppose is that I am the one who is wrong, and that my fears will NOT come true.

    The Iraq war was just such a case. I opposed entering that war but once we entered it, I wanted (and still want) nothing short of complete success.

    So if I want a policy to fail, I want it to do so in congress. I do not want it to pass. But once it does pass, I hope that I'm wrong more than I want the other side to be wrong.

    In essence, I'd rather hope that my predictions fail, not the policy.
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    Re: White House fires back at Rush Limbaugh


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    did you want Bush's SS privitization to succeed?

    Did you want Bush's Tax cuts "to the rich" to succeed?



    I find it absurd how those who spent the last 8 years bashing bush are now calling for anyone to support Obama.
    The way I see it, is that when people on the left wanted certain plans to fail, they were attacked as being un-American, unpatriotic, etc.

    Now that a leftist is in the white house, after 8 years of bashing those who wanted Bush's policies to fail, the right is actively hoping that Obama's policies will fail and are now being attacked as un-American, unpatriotic, etc.

    What this tells me, more than anything else, is that people on both sides are raging hypocrites. If someone on the left wanted Bush's policies to fail, labeling those on the right as unpatriotic for wanting Obama's to fail is hypocricy.

    And conversely, if those on the right, like Rush, labeled lefties as unpatriotic for not supporting Bush's policies, they are hypocrites to now do the same thing while using the same defenses as those on the left did for the last 8 years.

    I don't agree with either side being labeled as "unpatriotic" or "un-American" because they want policies they disagree with to fail. I was against it for the last 8 years, and I'm still against it now.



    Now, on a personal note, even when I disagree with a policy, once it is passed, I hope it will succeed. What I want more than anything else once legislation passes that I adamantly oppose is that I am the one who is wrong, and that my fears will NOT come true.

    So you want nationalized health care, government control of industry, an AWB, and other statist invasions of privacy to be succsessful?


    I ask in an effort for you to see my point.
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    Re: White House fires back at Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So you blame bush and bush only for the mess we are in today?


    Here is the difference, If Obama's policies "succseede" rights, and freedoms will be limited and we will move into a statist society.


    I want that to fail. Because if he is successful, America does not succede.

    But I see your point now.


    I still don't want Obama's policies to succede for my childerens sake.


    I didn't want Bush to sucsede at the end, his bailout money is something that help start this nonsense.

    Okay when the banks are nationalized let me know

    This economic mess was a long time in the making and must be dealt with otherwise fall out will have serious repercussions. I don't agree with everything being done but I sure as hell don't want failure.

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    Re: White House fires back at Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay when the banks are nationalized let me know
    You do not see how close we are to this?

    This economic mess was a long time in the making and must be dealt with otherwise fall out will have serious repercussions. I don't agree with everything being done but I sure as hell don't want failure.

    I want the economy to succede, I don't want it dragged out by obama's statist goals.
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    Re: White House fires back at Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I want the economy to succede.
    Agree. The Obama's Plan is the antithesis to that.

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    Re: White House fires back at Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You do not see how close we are to this?
    Like I said let me know when it happens.



    I want the economy to succede, I don't want it dragged out by obama's statist goals.
    If some government involvement gets the economy working again I'm all for it. I can put my ideology aside. Propping up the banks is the path being taken and I wish them all the success in the world to get capitalism and the economy working again.

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    Re: White House fires back at Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I want Obama's America to fail. Statism and socialism is not the America I want to live in.
    Now, now, Rev. I think you and I have already had this conversation in another thread, and you still have yet to show conclusively that this country is on a path to statism. We'll NEVER get there because there are just too many checks and balances in our three branches of government, specifically the judicial branch. But I digress...

    Tell me did you want Bush to succeeds?
    Initially, I did even when I felt he was the wrong candidate to lead this country (not to mention I still believe the Republican party stole the election both times "W" ran. But that's in the past...). It wasn't until he began to lie to the American people about Iraq (i.e., WMDs and their involvement with terrism against the U.S.) did I want him to fail. And fail he did! He took his eye off the prize and many Americans paid a heavy price for it.

    But no. At first I wanted him to do well. It wasn't until much later did I want him out of office! In the case of Pres. Obama, the Republican/Conservatives wanted him to fail well before he ever had a chance to succeed. To me, that's just not fair. But we are talking politics where fairness has no meaning nor relevance.

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    Re: White House fires back at Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Agree. The Obama's Plan is the antithesis to that.
    Yawn, that can not be determined as of yet. It might work it might not.

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