Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 36

Thread: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

  1. #11
    Every day I'm hustlin'..
    Lerxst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Nationwide...
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    15,466

    Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If Russia decides to nuke us (or someone else), which do you think is more likely: They'll fire one nuclear weapon, or they'll fire 400 nuclear weapons?

    Unless the shield can stop a barrage of nukes (and some decoys too), what's the purpose of it?
    I don't think they'll fire 400, that would basically end the world. They are smart enough to realize what would happen if they try that, even if they "won" the world would be surely uninhabitable not to mention we would retaliate in kind. I think if they tried it they might fire several though. And depending upon the deployment of the technology, the missile shield could feasibly knock several out.

    There are other military uses for a system that can shoot down ICBM's and MRV's.
    Last edited by Lerxst; 03-03-09 at 01:53 AM.
    *insert profound statement here*

  2. #12
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Whitewater, CO
    Last Seen
    04-05-16 @ 06:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    8,260
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If Russia decides to nuke us (or someone else), which do you think is more likely: They'll fire one nuclear weapon, or they'll fire 400 nuclear weapons?

    Unless the shield can stop a barrage of nukes (and some decoys too), what's the purpose of it?
    It's purpose is to annoy Vladimir Putin into a corinary.

  3. #13
    Enemy Combatant
    Kandahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Last Seen
    10-15-13 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    20,688

    Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    It's purpose is to annoy Vladimir Putin into a corinary.
    I agree.

    Where we part ways is that I don't think that's a good enough reason to have it.
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
    What?
    Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD

  4. #14
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Whitewater, CO
    Last Seen
    04-05-16 @ 06:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    8,260
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I agree.

    Where we part ways is that I don't think that's a good enough reason to have it.
    I see it as a barganing chip that Obama can use to get Russian cooperation in preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapons.

  5. #15
    Every day I'm hustlin'..
    Lerxst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Nationwide...
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    15,466

    Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

    I suppose my question would be this. Why would Russian want a nuclear armed Iran? Do we need a bargaining chip at all? And if Russia doesn't care that Iran has nukes then we need to be a hell of lot more worried about Russia than we are.
    *insert profound statement here*

  6. #16
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Whitewater, CO
    Last Seen
    04-05-16 @ 06:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    8,260
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I suppose my question would be this. Why would Russian want a nuclear armed Iran? Do we need a bargaining chip at all? And if Russia doesn't care that Iran has nukes then we need to be a hell of lot more worried about Russia than we are.
    If they had any brains at all --- they wouldn't.

    Of course, Russia is so broke they can't even pay attention. As such, thet will sell anything to anybody who can pay for it.

  7. #17
    Enemy Combatant
    Kandahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Last Seen
    10-15-13 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    20,688

    Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I see it as a barganing chip that Obama can use to get Russian cooperation in preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapons.
    Sounds to me like that's exactly what he's using it for.
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
    What?
    Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD

  8. #18
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Whitewater, CO
    Last Seen
    04-05-16 @ 06:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    8,260
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Sounds to me like that's exactly what he's using it for.
    Indeed.


  9. #19
    Sage
    Infinite Chaos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Last Seen
    11-19-17 @ 06:45 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    14,858

    Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    --snip-- Russia is so broke --snip--
    Fraid not, Russia supplies much of Europe with gas. They have us by the "short and curlies" every winter when they threaten to cut off supplies. They also have huge oil reserves and have just claimed a large part of the Arctic.

    Go on holiday around any parts of Europe and you'll see and hear more Russians than Germans / French / Italians etc.

    We're lucky Russia discovered its oil reserves after the Cold war was over. Anyhow - is there a link for the story?

  10. #20
    don't panic
    marduc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Last Seen
    10-22-17 @ 04:10 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    5,301

    Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Anyhow - is there a link for the story?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/03/wa...rexy.html?_r=2

    just happened to to have had it opened in another tab before I wandered here to DP

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •