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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    That individual was afraid for his life and was being beaten down. The man was not a threat and he was not attacking. The police have no excuse for their continued baton assault.
    I understand he was afraid, but that doesn't help this case any. What was he being arrested for? If I have a guy there who has just robbed a bank or committed an assault, and he's not submitting to arrest, he's going to be compelled by force if necessary. It's on him to determine at what point my use of force stops and he is effectively subdued. Citizens are required to submit to lawful commands from police officers. If an officer is within his legal authority to arrest you and you fail to comply, he is authorized use of force to compel you to submit. The situation will dictate how far up on the force continuum the officer goes.
    I see it as excessive force but only because of the baton usage.
    I don't have enough information to determine if the baton usage was or wasn't warranted.
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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    More fuel. I guess this very incident is turning the tide on tazers on Canada.
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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    I still have no problem with the tazer. Did he die from the taze, the knee to the throat, a pre-existing heart condition, yada yada yada

    you are jumping the gun on this without more info

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    I still have no problem with the tazer. Did he die from the taze, the knee to the throat, a pre-existing heart condition, yada yada yada

    you are jumping the gun on this without more info
    No, he's not.

    1 hit with a tazer may have been warranted. A 2nd tazer shot was overkill. The knee to the man's neck didn't help matters.

    I see it as the RCMP jumped the gun and made the situation much worse. All they needed was an interpretor. A bystander informed the RCMP responders that the man spoke no english.

    Clearly, the 2nd tazer shot was more than the man could take. If it turns out he was on a pace maker, the RCMP is in deep shiznit.

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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    cops using their knee on a perps neck is SOP when dealing with a combative perp, or when they are convulsing from electrocution

    I have a bigger problem with getting a gun to the temple when i get pulled over for nothing more than having a black man in my car on I-95 in Florida
    gun to the head while patted down, dogs brought out, car torn up....

    thats excessive

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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    cops using their knee on a perps neck is SOP when dealing with a combative perp, or when they are convulsing from electrocution

    I have a bigger problem with getting a gun to the temple when i get pulled over for nothing more than having a black man in my car on I-95 in Florida
    gun to the head while patted down, dogs brought out, car torn up....

    thats excessive
    It's a poor SOP that causes people to die.

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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    cops using their knee on a perps neck is SOP when dealing with a combative perp, or when they are convulsing from electrocution

    I have a bigger problem with getting a gun to the temple when i get pulled over for nothing more than having a black man in my car on I-95 in Florida
    gun to the head while patted down, dogs brought out, car torn up....

    thats excessive
    I had a cop point a gun at my head before too... But a procedure of sticking the full weight through your knee onto a mans neck is worse.

    I'm still living after my ordeal after all. Whats almost funny is a black dude actually ended up leaving arrested from my whole ordeal. At least I had a cutie female cop search for weapons on me.
    Then they called me Mexican and said I look like I belong to a Mexican gang... And I'm totally white and was hanging out with 2 black friends... whats up with that?

    We got pulled over because my friends car was reported stolen. It was his car but when he got it back he forgot to report it found. So I had to put my knees in glass or be shot according to the cop that night. As I was descending knees first into the glass ridden concrete I turned my head and looked at the cop and he was pointing his gun RIGHT at my head perfect aim.
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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I had a cop point a gun at my head before too... But a procedure of sticking the full weight through your knee onto a mans neck is worse.

    I'm still living after my ordeal after all. Whats almost funny is a black dude actually ended up leaving arrested from my whole ordeal. At least I had a cutie female cop search for weapons on me.
    Then they called me Mexican and said I look like I belong to a Mexican gang... And I'm totally white and was hanging out with 2 black friends... whats up with that?

    We got pulled over because my friends car was reported stolen. It was his car but when he got it back he forgot to report it found. So I had to put my knees in glass or be shot according to the cop that night. As I was descending knees first into the glass ridden concrete I turned my head and looked at the cop and he was pointing his gun RIGHT at my head perfect aim.

    I would've called the internal affairs division and filed a formal complaint.

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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I would've called the internal affairs division and filed a formal complaint.
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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Geez. That cop used way too much force on the 15-year-old girl. I hope they fire him.
    People like that have no business being in law enforcement.
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