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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    So your answer is yes?
    If a cop beating a 15 year old girl is a 75 out of 100 on a badness scale. Then a cop beating a 15 year old boy would be 70 in my books. Unless the boy had the physical structure of a girl and could defend himself less maybe. A cop beating me would be more like a 50 because I'm not going to let him abuse me and try to deflect as many blows as I can without hitting him kinda.

    And because I defended myself the world would see it as less bad.
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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    If a cop beating a 15 year old girl is a 75 out of 100 on a badness scale. Then a cop beating a 15 year old boy would be 70 in my books. Unless the boy had the physical structure of a girl and could defend himself less maybe. A cop beating me would be more like a 50 because I'm not going to let him abuse me and try to deflect as many blows as I can without hitting him kinda.

    And because I defended myself the world would see it as less bad.
    What's really screwed up is if that girl had defended herself in any way whatsoever, she would have had charges and further vilifications thrown at her. Anyone who defends themselves against a police officer gets that.

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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    If a cop beating a 15 year old girl is a 75 out of 100 on a badness scale. Then a cop beating a 15 year old boy would be 70 in my books.
    I don't know how you would figure that, but as I see it, whether the assaulted was a man, a women, a boy, or a girl, they were still under custody. The assailant also had another person to help him. Whether you have slightly higher percentage in muscle mass, or if you carry a pair of testicles, you'd probably end up just the same as the girl.

    The cowardice shown here does not depend on the victim's gender, at all. The cowardice here is taking advantage of the powerless. The circumstance in which the victim was in, is what makes them powerless, not gender.
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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    What's really screwed up is if that girl had defended herself in any way whatsoever, she would have had charges and further vilifications thrown at her. Anyone who defends themselves against a police officer gets that.
    Oh god yeah. The cops can beat the **** out of you, but don't you dare try to protect yourself cause then you're really ****ed. They'll say "resisting arrest" or "assault and battery on a police officer" or some other crap like that. You can't fight back against the police, the authority has the guns and the power and they ain't afraid to use it against the People.
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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    I don't know how you would figure that, but as I see it, whether the assaulted was a man, a women, a boy, or a girl, they were still under custody. The assailant also had another person to help him. Whether you have slightly higher percentage in muscle mass, or if you carry a pair of testicles, you'd probably end up just the same as the girl.

    The cowardice shown here does not depend on the victim's gender, at all. The cowardice here is taking advantage of the powerless. The circumstance in which the victim was in, is what makes them powerless, not gender.
    Cops like this don't prey on people like me though. They prey on little mouthy girls.
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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    What's really screwed up is if that girl had defended herself in any way whatsoever, she would have had charges and further vilifications thrown at her. Anyone who defends themselves against a police officer gets that.
    Well that's how the bad cops preemptively protect themselves when they commit police brutality. The person fights back, it's resisting and assault on an officer, they get charged. Many times the officer is considered more credible and therefore the victim is now a violent suspect who has to prove that not only were they the victim of police brutality, but that they are innocent of assaulting the officer. If the victim manages to sue the agency (on the advice of council) offers to drop charges in order to try and make it go away. Often times the agencies liability insurance carrier will demand that they be allowed to make a monetary offer because they know that the potential judgment will reach seven figures.

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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    What was this guy being arrested for and why didn't he obey their commands to submit to arrest?

    Really need a bit more info. That doesn't look like brutality, that looks like a guy who won't submit to arrest.
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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Cops have too much power and far too much leeway when it comes to taking people down. There is no such thing as self-defense when you are protecting yourself from being beaten by a cop, and this, IMO, needs to change.

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    Re: Deputy Accused of Using Excessive Force on Teen Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    What was this guy being arrested for and why didn't he obey their commands to submit to arrest?

    Really need a bit more info. That doesn't look like brutality, that looks like a guy who won't submit to arrest.
    That individual was afraid for his life and was being beaten down. The man was not a threat and he was not attacking. The police have no excuse for their continued baton assault.

    I see it as excessive force but only because of the baton usage.

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