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    Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    President Obama will announce plans today to withdraw the bulk of the current 142,000 U.S. troops in Iraq by Aug. 31 of 2010, leaving 35,000 to 50,000 in place until the end of 2011, senior administration officials said yesterday.

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    Obama, who will make his announcement this morning during a trip to the Marine base at Camp Lejeune, N.C., briefed congressional leaders at the White House yesterday afternoon. Even before that session, as leaked portions of the plan have been reported this week, many Democrats have complained that 50,000 troops is too many to leave behind.

    The plan allows three months longer to pull out combat forces than Obama promised during the presidential campaign, and "50,000 is a little higher number than I anticipated," Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) said before the briefing.
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    Rep. John McHugh (NY), the senior Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, said that the president's withdrawal plan "is one that we should pray for, plan for and work toward." McHugh said he remained concerned about tenuous security in Iraq, and added that Obama had "assured me that he will revisit his plan if the situation on the ground deteriorates and violence increases."
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    The officials said the commanders and conditions on the ground would also determine the exact size of the temporary residual force. In his announcement today, Obama plans to outline a new mission for the troops remaining after August of next year. An unspecified number will conduct ongoing counterterrorism against al-Qaeda and "other extremists" with--and without--Iraqi forces, they said.
    So when he said "all combat troops out in 16 months," what he actually meant was "most combat troops out in 19 months."

    And here's something I found amusing:

    "It will be structured in such a way . . . to allow us to address some of the fundamental issues as it relates to the health" of the overstretched U.S. military force, one official said, both in relation to Afghanistan, where Obama last week pledged to send an additional 17,000 troops, and "then ultimately as it relates to using this period . . . with a very hard end date" for Iraq. That date, Jan. 1, 2012, was set as the deadline for final withdrawal of all U.S. forces, in a status of forces agreement signed last year by former President George W. Bush and the Iraqi government.
    "So it's a very different mission than we have now," Gates said. Referring to the existing status-of-forces agreement, Gates added: "Whatever number the president approves as of the date he approves is a way station, because if there is no new agreement, under the SOFA, that number has to be zero at the end of 2011."
    Can anyone explain how Obama's timetable is in any way, shape or form different from Bush's? The only difference that I can see is that under Bush's plan, we would have to have every soldier out of Iraq by the end of 2011. Under this proposal, we'll still have 35-50k there on that date.
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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Can anyone explain how Obama's timetable is in any way, shape or form different from Bush's?
    It's obvious isn't it? The troops stationed there will no longer be classified as combat troops.

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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    18 months eh?


    Another campaign promise broken?
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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It's obvious isn't it? The troops stationed there will no longer be classified as combat troops.
    That was probably my favorite part. "We're removing all combat troops...and then taking some of the remaining people and having them go out on patrols, search for terrorists, etc. But that's not combat!"
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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Can anyone explain how Obama's timetable is in any way, shape or form different from Bush's? The only difference that I can see is that under Bush's plan, we would have to have every soldier out of Iraq by the end of 2011. Under this proposal, we'll still have 35-50k there on that date.
    The difference is it's Obama's Presidency and everything is always tentative.

    I'm betting Bush said a lot of that stuff just to make the people happy, and maybe ease the military's fatigue with it all. I'd say a lot of soldier's were relieved they wouldn't have to go over there when they heard the plans.
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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Can anyone explain how Obama's timetable is in any way, shape or form different from Bush's? The only difference that I can see is that under Bush's plan, we would have to have every soldier out of Iraq by the end of 2011. Under this proposal, we'll still have 35-50k there on that date.
    It can't be explained because there is no change or difference in the Bush plan. It is a PR stunt that only the most gullible can fall for. But alas, even his minions of anti-war nut bags see through this as being more of the same and very unhappy with this perpetual campaigner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It's obvious isn't it? The troops stationed there will no longer be classified as combat troops.
    Now THIS is funny; and pretty much sums up Democrat Party politics. Just call something, something else, and you have.......CHANGE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    I'm betting Bush said a lot of that stuff just to make the people happy, and maybe ease the military's fatigue with it all.
    I would love to see some examples to support this assertion.

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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Can anyone explain how Obama's timetable is in any way, shape or form different from Bush's?
    Under Obama's the soldiers that are still there have Hope? I mean, that's what's important!

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