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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It's obvious isn't it? The troops stationed there will no longer be classified as combat troops.
    Symbolism over substance again. They are soldiers and look like soldiers no matter what the mission.
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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

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    Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011



    Here's something worth keeping in mind:



    Also:



    So when he said "all combat troops out in 16 months," what he actually meant was "most combat troops out in 19 months."

    And here's something I found amusing:





    Can anyone explain how Obama's timetable is in any way, shape or form different from Bush's? The only difference that I can see is that under Bush's plan, we would have to have every soldier out of Iraq by the end of 2011. Under this proposal, we'll still have 35-50k there on that date.
    And the sheep keep cooing to anything good. And for now their bleats fend off the wolves. But maybe people are starting to realize the nation's shepherd doesn't care about his flock all too much? Or maybe has a different group in mind as his flock other than all the American people as a whole.
    We should have realized that after all the laws and new key wrenching points in our laws where enabled a new leader would be willing to say anything just to intercept all the power that has been set up before him. And should have filtered our candidates more heavily.
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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Symbolism over substance again. They are soldiers and look like soldiers no matter what the mission.
    Yes, but they're not combat troops.

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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Yes, but they're not combat troops.



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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Sooooo.. Are they taking away all their ammo and letting them patrol the streets non-combat style?
    Or are they going to give them all tazers and let them go LAPD on Iraq?
    Or did America get a lemon?
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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    No combat troops was a nice slight of hand. The real magic in todays speech, was more money for veterans, a 21st century G.I. Bill, and a pay raise for the troops!!!

    Yep, he included the war funding in his budget, yet he just instructed the Pentagon to cut 10% from the military budget.

    Obama just stands there smiling and bull****ting the American people, and the MSM can't jiz on themselves fast enough as they report the bozo's message.
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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Under Obama's the soldiers that are still there have Hope? I mean, that's what's important!
    I'm cracking up here on this one; thanks Zyph, that was good.

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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Sooooo.. Are they taking away all their ammo and letting them patrol the streets non-combat style?
    Or are they going to give them all tazers and let them go LAPD on Iraq?
    Or did America get a lemon?





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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    So when he said "all combat troops out in 16 months," what he actually meant was "most combat troops out in 19 months."
    Obama qualified his war positions enough that I think a substantial number of people who voted for him would rather he make decisions based on what's realistic rather than what he campaigned on. That is, I don't think he represented himself as someone who be pigheaded about an artificial deadline. Given my impression of your political views, I would think you'd be happy about that.

    Now, the whitewashing in this speech is another matter, but nothing unexpected from a politician of any stripe. I'd take it over Bush admin fear mongering any day.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Can anyone explain how Obama's timetable is in any way, shape or form different from Bush's?
    What's different is that actually agreeing to a timetable isn't a first class waffle for Obama. I suppose you swallowed Bush's "aspirational goals" whitewashing?

    While I want the US out ASAP, if there is already an agreement to leave, I'm satisfied in fulfilling those obligations as they stand.

    My decision to vote for Obama (as opposed to 3rd party) was based on McCain's rhetoric, not Bush's.

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    Re: Officials: Obama to Leave Up to 50K Troops in Iraq Through 2011

    Under Bush the troops success was recognized, applauded, and celebrated.

    Under Obama the troops success is ignored, belittled, and **** on.

    That is the primary difference..and it matters more then anything else.

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